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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 12:59 PM Original message |
Hope for Hillary's Florida delegates? FL lawsuit against the DNC gets new life. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Florida Dems didn't do this |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Bill Nelson said no revote. |
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Seeker30 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
90. Of course you feel that way since she won Florida |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. A little context: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Thank you for that. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. I'm not a big fan of lies. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. actually, it appears that FL voters don't feel so disenfranchised |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. yep all 24% of them |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. wrong. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:46 PM Original message |
You are dead wrong. Read and get your facts straight. |
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Florida22ndDistrict (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
79. RE: actually, it appears that FL voters don't feel so disenfranchised |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Then help vote the repugs out of your state offices, if they were not there this would not have |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. I don't let people get away with blaming the GOP for the vote. |
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Florida22ndDistrict (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. re: Then help vote the repugs out of your state offices |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. I was right. |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. the good new is they won't even matter |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I feel sick. Do you realize what ongoing lawsuits will do to the process? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Ugh Mad - This is no longer about Clinton being President of the Untied States |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. How do you have a clean nomination with lawsuits pending? |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. A friend sent to the St. Pete Times today. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. "Karen Thurman spoke of Hillary Clinton as our “next President” |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
82. By getting the necessary delegates to secure the nomination. |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Look madfloridian |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I'm with you on this - even if I get shot down on tinfoilhat crap |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Agreed debi-and they will do and say anything |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. It IS about them. That was what Florida's primary battle was about. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. The case won't be heard until March 17. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. I hope you're wrong |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Oh, my goodness, the Clintons are so powerful! I just didn't know. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
92. Who said anything about power? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. More...betcha Hillary will stay in until the appeal date. March 17 |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Things could get even worse if she drops out |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I can assure you they do not intend to be reasonable. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. If Clinton drops out, Obama will probably seat the delegations |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Seat, not count. There is a difference. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
71. I thought Mike had more sense than that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Read what he posted at The Buzz. |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hmmmm... a lawsuit to change the rules after the fact |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Technically, he stopped the recount. Did he blur the rules? |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. This could get ugly |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I think Florida Dem leaders will keep pushing...I think it will get ugly. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Hey MadFloridian ! ! ! ! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I have no respect left for her. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. madfloridian you seem a little sensitive |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You are not funny, nor are you cute. The future of the nomination.. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. I'm confused, how is that gloating? It is duly noted that you are royally pissed off |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. OK, that's it. You called me a "hillary hater"..Good LORD where did that term come from? |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Sorry, you don't have any respect for ... my bad. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. Another Supreme Court Selection ... excellent. (nt) |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hillary's campaign could stop this stuff. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. They won't. They're in all likelihood driving it. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. There's doubt about her being behind the effort??? Really? n/t |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
60. I see what you're saying. She should drop out and let Obama go about his business becoming |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. That is NOT what I said. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Well, what the heck are you saying?! You keep throwing out posts about how HRCs |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I tried to pretend that you were trying to be fair... |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
22. The granting of oral argument means very little ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. There is a Supreme Court precedent already. |
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mythyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
27. this doesn't matter one bit |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You don't think it matters? I think the party's future turns on stuff like this... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It'll be over Tuesday. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
72. Not if the court hearing is on March 17. |
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mythyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I only meant numbers-wise |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Thanks for the clarification. We mostly agree. |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Even if she won, not including appeals up the line... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. Florida is getting delegates organized. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. madfloridian, I thought I had mentioned to you a week or so ago |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
31. Guess we should just move to the back of the bus now? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Turning a party dispute into a civil rights issue is just plain dirty pool. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. We can win the general without Florida |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
95. I'd say that madfloridian has a pretty good idea |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Hillary's florida delegates? Did I miss something... |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. There are no Florida delegates. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Well, the judge in Atlanta must think there are some. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. "successfully appealed"? Hardly |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Read my post below. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
51. The Primary change date was tagged on with the bill that got rid of the Fla Dre voting machines.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Florida worked with the GOP for over a year to get the bill through. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
52. More on the lawsuit....... |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. CHEATER. If Florida or Michigan delegates are appropriated to Hillary...I WILL QUIT THE PARTY. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. What kind of dem are you to not stick by the dem party. Good riddance! nt |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. I wouldn't get that upset. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
85. Actually, she made an agreement not to campaign in the states. nt |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
88. I totally agree with you |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
58. By any means necessary ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
63. A suggestion about the term "Hillary hater".. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I suggest you read my post accurately in which I said you "hate Hillary" not "Hillary hater" |
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Skarbrowe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
68. I guess it's tough when almost a million people vote for you and |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Why am I concerned now? Because the courts are involved. |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
73. I think we're witnessing the DLC & DNC vying for power over the party |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
74. After next Tuesday it won't matter...HRC is going to lose BOTH states... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
75. "Both men said they are no “Johnny come latelies” |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. In fact, the tone of that article sounds like they think they know better... |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
76. I've got a compromise idea for Nelson -- seat the pledged delegates but not the superdelegates |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. Depending on the next month this may be immaterial |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. I hope it is a clear win....no room for an ugly fight. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Thats my hope as well. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
81. ... but if Obama wanted the delegates... |
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parkeradison (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
83. Florida delegates |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
84. This is covered at The Buzz blog of the St. Pete Times...response by Michael Steinberg |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
86. Another Lawsuit about another screwed up Florida election to give us another dynasty, I can't wait. |
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Hillary_Hillary (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
96. Keep it going. She won Florida fair and square. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. No one said she didn't. That is NOT what this is about. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
99. I love this. Keep it going, I say. Soon we'll need a fucking time machine to go back into the past |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-29-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
100. I just did a search on various terms....nothing new about this at all. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
104. Lawyer for the suit says appellate court wants to set "precedent"...but Supreme Court did already. |
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