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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:48 AM Original message |
All of these parallels drawn between Obama and JFK are ludicrous. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Blame JFK's daughter if you must: "A President Like My Father" |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Okay, then, I will. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Im glad you knew her father better than her or his own brother Teddy |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Seriously, now, do we HAVE to know her father? |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. ZING! |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. I wouldn't say we need to go back to the 60's. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, this is the liberal political swing following the conservative political era started in 1980. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. Lesser men are compared to Great Men |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. $100 says that the dreaming part is marketing. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Kennedy |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
8. Obama qualifies on his own, but there is no ignoring that he evokes.... |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. Many blacks might say (especially older ones) |
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muryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. A very sad but true statement |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Not if you count Jesse Jackson |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. Oh for crying out loud! |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. if people want to make the comparison, so what?? what difference does it make? |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Because it seems incongruent to both herald Obama as a figure of change... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. the 60s were a period of change |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Because the same people adopting change, for the most part, abandoned it for Volvos in the 1980's. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. because they accomplished what they wanted by the 80s??? |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. No. Because they suddenly decided that the rabid pursuit of capital transcended the needs of the... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. so the Vietnam war did not end????? |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Say wha'? They were only there because of the war? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. "the rabid pursuit of capital"... Methinks someone read the Cliff Notes of Marx, and likes to pose. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. No we didn't. We are the same people we were then. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. I've got to ask: Do you think you all invented anti-war protests? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Nope. But we were good at it. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Well... at least you all WENT INTO THE F'ING STREETS. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. People have taken to the streets |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. You lost me at this post Writer. Many of us are still working towards what we were then. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. And there lies the problem, the corporate media has corrupted many things |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. "All of these parallels?" Are you writing from January? |
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The Ghost (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
14. Youre right. He reminds me more of RFK than JFK. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. We certainly didn't get to know what kind of president he would be. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. That is very true. He encouraged positiveness, and hope, but we will never know |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Completely. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. As someone in the over 50 set, I resent to worshipping of JFK. |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. As an Obama supporter I fully agree |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Little do a few of the folks in this thread understand that I'm actually DEFENDING Obama. |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I like that you are posing an actual well reasoned point |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Thanks, dude. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. He is his own person, but.... you knew that was coming |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I salivate at your well-reasoned analysis. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. In GD: P |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Well your point is salient: Every politician has characteristics that ... |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Every analogy falls apart at some point... |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. My dad was from the silent generation. |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. My parents are of that generation, too... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. History never repeats itself 100% EVAH |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I'm not a historian, but I've had similar thoughts. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Where they are similar is that both Jack and Obama |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. That's what i've thought, too. That JFK was a martyr because of his ephemeral presidency. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. All cynicism aside it IS a movement |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
31. "no more than two and a half years" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. Actually, presidential historians disagree with you, namely |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. JFK was our first and so far our only President from a minority group. |
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soaplover20012001 (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. rev |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. see below |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Let me translate. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
57. Ludicrous to you ... Others are entitled to their opinion of that comparison. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Yeah... but I don't think the comparison holds a lot of water. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. there you go |
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Yanez Houston Jordan (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. I agree. JFK had advantages that Obama never enjoyed. |
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