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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 07:45 PM Original message |
Sen. Jim Webb thinks that Barack Obama can get the Appalachians Vote; it isn't Race so much..... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. Doesn't Webb kind of have to say that? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. I think honestly, Webb's being a little dishonest. |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. I thought he said that he wrote about this a few year's ago |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. Here's Webb's article he was referencing from 2004... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yep, that's it. |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. The proof is in the juke joint, not in the hype the media is pushing. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Video ... |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. Before this primary nobody ever paid the slightest bit of attention |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. sounds like what blacks and hispanics have dealt with for years |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Don't expect Casual Observer to have any sympathy for the plight of inner city |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. I believe that Rachel Maddow has a lot to do with msnbc debunking that myth |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I agree. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yeah. Thom Hartmann was talking this morning about how the media was using that meme |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. The same Webb article includes this paragraph: |
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grannylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I agree, he can't write those states off, as Buchanan suggested |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Love your sentence about the 2 types of voters. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Perhaps that leader is Senator Obama who can name the Scots-Irish Senator Webb his V.P. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. Webb wrote a book about the Scots-Irish a few years back |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. Ummmm....One thing: Don't reinvent electoral history about Perot. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Do you have a link? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Look it up here: |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. I thought it was also interesting |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Frenchie |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R. |
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Athletic Grrl (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. He has to let it go. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm thinking more and more... |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Probably so, but aren't they pretty far apart on the point in question? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. Obama can do that in the General when he doesn't |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. Turns out the white voter vs Barack issue is yet another manipulation by the Clintons. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Webb stayed away from that, didn't he? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. his discussion certainly broadened the subject to reach the real truth |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. My OP was about a bit more than what Webb said....although my headline |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
26. Saw him this morning as well |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. He also said that bringing together both of these groups that have been |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. He's my #1 choice right now |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. He's been my number 1 for awhile now, and tonight I found out he wasnt as conservative as I thought |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. I loved that statement and possibility too ! /nt |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. Wow, forgot about how Perot probably affected his winning these states... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. I disagree with Senator Webb. The Appalachian votes for |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. You're discounting why these voters and African Americans were pitted against each other |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. maybe for a few of them |
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McDiggy (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
34. Wow....... |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'll second this, all of it. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. What difference in Hillary Clinton's policies caused her to do better in Appalachia? NT |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Respect for a strong leader --- Hillary made that obliterate Iran comment |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Yes, but there is a CULTURAL racial xenophobia at work here. See #41 |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. southern illinos-coal and fluorspar. |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. I loved how he is framing the argument |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. Not a single person has replied to my analysis of KY. BO got only 5-10% of the vote in the Kerry cos |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Your thread is about WHAT it was, while I'm trying to understand WHY it is.... |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Gave it a shot. |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. How? |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I went to Leopold's thread and replied. |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. I will take a bite on your WV/KY assertions --- I don't know if they'll satisfy |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Good points, especially the "local church/military outpost to bar" part. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thanks FrenchieCat |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
48. ya have to include southern illinois |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
52. Deep down he knows he is wrong |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Wrong for what exactly? |
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