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Fri May-23-08 06:20 PM
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Chuck Todd: "She looked pained, like someone who realized she may have just destroyed |
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all the goodwill she spent so long trying to build up."
Buchanan concurs.
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Fri May-23-08 06:20 PM
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1. Yep. She's sad she might have destroyed her political future. That's |
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all. I'm not giving her one little centimeter on this.
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Fri May-23-08 06:21 PM
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2. Indeed. She's fucked up bad, and she knows it. |
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Fri May-23-08 06:23 PM
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5. Did she do anything in particular, or are we talking about her whole campaign? |
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Fri May-23-08 06:23 PM
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How will they refer to it?
1) Assassingate 2) Assassinationgate 3) Stupider-than-a-retarded-syphillitic-monkey-statementgate?
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Fri May-23-08 06:43 PM
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Fri May-23-08 06:23 PM
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3. looked like someone who fucked up and said, out loud, something she has dwelled upon. |
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Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:24 PM by havocmom
Makes me think we should take a closer look at her imaginary sniper obsession not long ago.
Hillary, what HAVE you been dwelling on?
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Fri May-23-08 06:29 PM
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Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:30 PM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
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Fri May-23-08 06:29 PM
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18. I concur, I think she let slip what she'd like to happen... |
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Fri May-23-08 06:34 PM
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27. Reminds one of that scene in the movie The Dead Zone |
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where the president grabs a child to shield himself. Thus is the level of her obsession and illness.
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Fri May-23-08 06:48 PM
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37. I have thought of that scene so often with Hillary, and wondered what it would... |
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take from her to produce that moment, when avarice and greed destroyed a career?
Apparently, using assassination as a campaign strategy isn't enough for her supporters, the DNC, the SDs, and the media.
Dear God, America may actually deserve Hillary Clinton.
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Fri May-23-08 06:57 PM
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39. You can't say something unless you've thought it first... |
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...obviously.
Which begs the questions, why did she say that?
I think you're right.
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Fri May-23-08 06:41 PM
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30. She also talks about the obliteration of countries |
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Don't forget her fervent support for the Iraq war in 2003. She has a penchant for violence it seems.
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Fri May-23-08 06:23 PM
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4. Too bad she didn't drop out yesterday |
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Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:23 PM by boobooday
When she still might have been able to do it with a little grace and dignity.
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Fri May-23-08 06:26 PM
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8. Grace and Dignity? When has she ever shown either? Tenacity, yes: narcissism, yes. |
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Fri May-23-08 06:30 PM
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22. Narcissistic tenacity?? |
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Fri May-23-08 06:29 PM
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19. That ship sailed in February. |
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Fri May-23-08 06:29 PM
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20. so true. That's what she gets for staying in. Now the entire world knows she's an ass |
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The blindfolds surely have been ripped off this time.
Then again, some people are already turning this into a "poor Hillary..those people are picking on her" thing.
People are so dumb- I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up HELPING her in the end.
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Fri May-23-08 06:25 PM
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7. I was surprised that bigot Buchanan concurred. n/t |
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Fri May-23-08 06:26 PM
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I thought even a bigot like him might take a shot at excusing her comments.
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Fri May-23-08 06:27 PM
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10. Even her stalwart defender, the racist Pat Bucahan? |
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Fri May-23-08 06:27 PM
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11. Giving her every benefit of the doubt, the way she chose to |
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phrase her point was just awful, and stupid.
It does make me wonder after all the grief that Obama took for his "bitter" comments (I got them, I agreed with them, but they were poorly phrased - if only because so many people misunderstood him and were upset) what the reaction to her comments will be...
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Fri May-23-08 06:27 PM
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12. you cherry picked...why don't you post everything Chuck Todd said?....afraid of truth eh? |
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Fri May-23-08 06:29 PM
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17. I would, but I'm a pretty bad stenographer. I'm sure I butchered this quote, too. |
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Fri May-23-08 06:59 PM
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42. What else did he say? |
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Fri May-23-08 06:27 PM
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13. What uncommitted SD can now possibly endorse her? |
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Fri May-23-08 06:28 PM
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14. Screen Shot with Liquor bottles making up her backdrop |
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Fri May-23-08 06:30 PM
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21. The sign off camera says "salad dressing." I think that's a C-store or small grocery. |
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Fri May-23-08 06:28 PM
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15. It's so sad that only thing that pains her is what may happen to her political future |
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Fri May-23-08 06:32 PM
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25. That's how it looks in this photo |
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Fri May-23-08 06:36 PM
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28. This is here Political Present |
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Fri May-23-08 06:44 PM
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33. I don't know about that |
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She was probably upset about the political ramifications, but she probably also felt some genuine remorse. I listened to it and it was clearly a gaffe, not a deliberate insinuation. She probably realized after she said it how insensitive it was...she may not have been thinking about how nervous some people are about Obama getting assassinated. She probably also realized that she may have offended a Ted Kennedy and even though he endorsed Obama I refuse to believe she'd want to say something that would offend or upset him right now.
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Fri May-23-08 06:57 PM
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40. Except this is the third time she's mentioned this |
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She said same thing to Time Magazine in early March and there's another quote in DU from WV primary.
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Fri May-23-08 08:35 PM
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45. You refuse to believe... Well, what more can be said on that? |
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That is a conversation ender.
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Fri May-23-08 06:31 PM
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23. I think that Andrea, Pat, and Chuck |
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were all generous in saying that Hillary didn't mean to be offensive or imply anything at all and that she was clearly pained and disturbed during the apology (which I don't really agree with, but whatever), but all made interesting points. Andrea said that it is just damaging in that for some people, this may be the last straw in them giving her the benefit of the doubt. Chuck also gave several historical references that seem more obvious (and "safer") choices to use in this context than the RFK assasination.
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Fri May-23-08 06:31 PM
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24. Todd also questioned why not other dates, '84, etc. |
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Her mentioning this a few times, and always highlighting possible weaknesses for an Obama choice, she doesn't get my benefit of the doubt.
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Fri May-23-08 06:32 PM
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26. I'd have liked to included that too, but I'd already paused too long trying to remember the wording. |
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Fri May-23-08 06:38 PM
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She meant what she said. Has anyone of us ever known HRC never to not carefully weigh each word out of her cold, calculating mouth?
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Fri May-23-08 06:42 PM
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31. This nightmare can't end soon enough! |
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The Clintons can go back into that rabbit hole now.
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Fri May-23-08 06:44 PM
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34. True except that I think she had |
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already destroyed just about all the goodwill before this. This latest took the remaining miniscule amount that was left.
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Fri May-23-08 06:46 PM
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35. Yup. It was pain for HERSELF. And she apologized to the Kennedys and not to Obama! |
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Fri May-23-08 06:46 PM
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36. WHAT "good will" has she built up? Pandering to bigots?--- |
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She's done nothing but try to destroy anything and everything that is in her way.
Chuck Todd isa fucking nincompoop if he doesn't realize that she planned to say it. She realized before she said it she was taking a chance, but thought she could pull it off, with the help of compliant, willing toadies in the media.
Shame on Todd if he bought into it.
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Fri May-23-08 06:49 PM
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...a difference.
On one hand, there's Hope and Change.
On the other, Hope for Disaster.
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Fri May-23-08 07:00 PM
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Fri May-23-08 06:58 PM
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41. What goodwill has Madame Entitled To It ever tried to build up? |
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Glad to hear she looked pained at least.
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Fri May-23-08 07:00 PM
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43. She looked pained because she realized |
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she just lost superdelegates, a possible VP slot, and the election. Hillary doesn't care about the goodwill of the people. She proves that by manipulating her followers and the general public.
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Fri May-23-08 08:35 PM
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46. Why is Buchanan still on there? |
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