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ballsalicious (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:37 AM Original message |
Francis Fukuyama (Original PNAC Signer/Repulican/Neconservative) backs Obama for US presidency |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. We are a big tent, but only if he repents for his prior sins. eom |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He backed away from PNAC quite a while ago. |
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ballsalicious (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. very big tent - if there is anybody who can get an eclectic mix like this going.. its BO |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. He has... he has repudiated his former buddies |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. My thoughts, too, Frances.. |
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RevolutionToday (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Pass the hope bong! |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. Does it make me a bad person if I say Fuck off Francis... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. He already repudiated his earlier assertions and apologized a couple years ago. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Again, this is why we lose elections. They are like cockroaches. |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
42. Not in my eyes, it doesn't. I'm curious, did he come out against the war |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Yes, he was opposed, or at the least, skeptical of the Iraq War: |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. Wow, are we really lowering the standards to this? |
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ballsalicious (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I think Hillary is the one lowering her standards... Fukuyama just wants change... |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Nice try. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
7. People are finally coming to their senses. Thank goodness. |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. He recently visited my progressive college |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. This is something that concerns me |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Fukuyama disassociated himself from PNAC and the neo-cons years ago. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I never quite trust those disassociations |
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ballsalicious (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. This is an interesting backing... because the idea of change is so powerful... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. I think he's wanting to back the guy who won't sink his investments |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Sounds like he has changed more than which party he's endorsing |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. "Fukuyama is on the steering committee for the Scooter Libby Legal Defense Trust" |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You know Libby is just a fall guy right? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. OMG! That makes it so much more palatable. Thanks. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
41. Yeah, we should just hate it when a Republican supports a Democrat. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Or seriously wonder why. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. If there was evidence Obama was a neocon, I might wonder. But there isn't... |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. If you were planning on complete disassociation... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. People can change but I think the backing is more for economics |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yep. He's a typical Obamacan. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I know several at work |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. We have that in common... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I'm all for it |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I think that explains the momentum... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yes it is |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
16. Holy shit! Good news! |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
19. he's pretty much an academic |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. The smartest fucking rat on the ship named NeoCon. That's the excuse? |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. I've been published on neoconservatives |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. When he is campaigning for Obama, then I will cut him some slack. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. yeah he can bring the huge Francis Fukuyama voting block with him |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
20. 3 words |
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Bear down under (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
27. Margaret Throsby interviewed him for the ABC this morning. |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
40. Isn't that the motherfucker who is pretty much the Nietzsche of the NeoCons?!! |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yes that first rat off the ship motherfucker. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. In 2002. Anyone who said they were skeptical of the Iraq War in 2002 does have some cred. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. I'm inclined to trust him a lot more than someone who specialized in one-line arguments. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
43. I'd say he's reading the polls, knows the repukes are dead, wants to position himself |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I think you are right, Raindog |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
46. "the existing polarisation has gotten very debilitating, where you cannot talk about certain issues" |
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ballsalicious (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. ? |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
49. Quiet your jerking knees |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
51. Good god who's next -- Cheney? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
52. Ah, another misleading post by someone ignorant of what Fukayama's views are |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Interesting, I did not know. Thanks n/t |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. i don't know what to make of this |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
57. Great |
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panhead1961 (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
58. Sounds like a Monty Python Skit - Sorry,Sorry now for something completely different |
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panhead1961 (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Trying to add a picture |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. Gaaah!! Make it go away! |
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