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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:48 PM Original message |
Hillary Needs To Stop Dividing the Party. Now. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. meh |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. What's that? Take it to the convention? No. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I think it would be kinda neat to have more political parties |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. And you are here at Democratic Underground because why? |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. I really love this place, mostly lbn and gd, but the lounge too |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. I'm not saying she should drop out now. I'm saying she should allow things to play out |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. The GOP and the DLC (or DNC) ARE the ruling class parties |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. I'll even give you your 5th R |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. someone beat me to it |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. The only thing that is ruining and dividing this party is Obama's unelectability. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The only thing that is runing and dividing this country is your belief in this false idea. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. It's not a false idea. It's the truth. It's one of the reasons why I switched support. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Truth by Hillary's standards is no truth at all. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. and when Obama is the nominee, will you switch back? |
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Mike L (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Obama will lose a 'gimmie' election. em |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
65. yep. it is unbelieveable that democrats can be so stupid as to blow this election with an Obama nomi |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I believe you are being intentionally inaccurate. |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Democratic elections are a b*tch, are't they? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
63. yep, and it's going to damage the country as well. nt |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. even if she doesnt like what happens Saturday, I dont think she'll have a choice |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Funny. I see Obama as the divisive one. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. True dat - prior to Obama there was no rift n/t |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
66. so true. nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You believe that because that is what you've been told in the Hillary echo-chamber. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. So it's Obama's fault that Hillary didn't wrap it up on Super Tuesday??? nt |
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Mike L (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Actually, it's the fault of Obama's supporters. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. See, unelectability is an issue of opinion. Opinions aren't facts. nt |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. I see it the opposite from you |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. How has Obama caused the rift...apart from winning primaries and leading Hillary? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I have posted this link many times, and I'll post it again |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The memo covers the pattern of racially divisiveness of the Clinton Campaign. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. No, it points out how to FRAME it as racist. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Fail. Wrong. Go Back to the drawing board. The memo never uses the word "racist" |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. So what? It doesn't need to. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. It doesn't frame the Clinton campaign as racists as you said it did. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yes, it does. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
68. look in the mirror. O supporters are some of the nastiest democrats i've ever come across. "bitch" |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Clinton pisses off large portions of the base... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
71. Yep, and we won't forget it in November. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oh yeah, a candidate campaigning will help "ruin this country" |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You can't read can you? Taking it to the convention floor will. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Why shouldn't Hillary take this to the convention floor? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Because she can't win. She will only ruin the chances of the party to Win the Presidency. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Obama could likely reach 2025 by Tuesday. Currently, he has 1981 delegates. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Because most of those delegates were a result of backroom deals. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. "Because most of those delegates were a result of backroom deals." - Prove it. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. What do you think superdelegates are? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You slamming Hillary's ONLY CHANCE at a win (SDs)? Now that's RICH! |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Superdelegates are Obama's only chance to win too. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I'm not slamming a win by SDs as you are. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. As far as I know, the Super Delegates aren't overturning the primary results. nt |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Red Herring |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
69. losing an election wouldn't do the dems any good either. nt |
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samplegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. R&K |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. We should just settle down and wait until Wednesday by friend |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. I wish it were that simple. But more and more Hillary surrogates and supporters are talking about |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Don't worry |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. Big K&R! |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
45. Oh the drama. CAN the party survive its own system? Or will Hillary Clinton extinguish the sun and |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. She's ruined her own campaign. Let's keep it isolated to that. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Oh, those poor infected 17+ million. Btw, to your question - one that seems to come up frequently |
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Mike L (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
51. In February, Obama said she could continue...... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I'm not calling for her to quit. I'm asking her to gracefullly allow this to play out |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. She can do what she wants... with each step she destroys her own chances... |
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Robbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. History |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. The past is not indicative of the future |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
61. kick |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
62. Back at you, honey. nt |
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ruby slippers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
64. traffic signal for Hillary |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
67. I do believe this is up to Howard Dean and not some little poster at DU. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
70. Yawn........... |
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