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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:43 AM Original message |
Hillary said she could lead from Day One. yet she has no effect over her own Supporters? |
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anonymous171
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. Look, she's spent the last few months telling her supporters how awful Obama was. |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Well, this is reflecting on her....... |
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
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Darth_Kitten
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Actually, his supporters, good or bad, believed what they wanted to believe. |
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Cha
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
104. I had one the other day |
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roguevalley
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
127. its her responsibility to undo that, as it would be his if this were turned |
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2rth2pwr
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama also told his supporters to be nice to Hillarys supporters. |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I'm only nice to the ones that aren't still dissing Obama....... |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. This thread, is not being "nice" to anyone. |
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bvar22
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
113. There are no more "Clinton supporters". |
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ogradda
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
122. hear hear n/t |
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Mudoria
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
135. Exactly |
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mcctatas
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Are you seriously equating snarky blow-hards like myself being |
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
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mcctatas
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. There was a clause in his request that only went out to his donor |
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JVS
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. Thank god for that loophole! |
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SwampG8r
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
56. that what mine says too |
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onetwo
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. On the internet, you don't know how big the room is. The vocal minority sounds and acts like... |
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jgraz
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Her job now is to deliver those votes. |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yep..... |
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emilyg
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. It's his job. |
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jgraz
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Well, it probably will end up as his job. I doubt Hillary will work that hard to change minds. |
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Major Hogwash
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Tue Jun-10-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. She won't lift a finger. It'll be 2004 all over again and you won't hear from Bubba again either. |
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cboy4
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Tue Jun-10-08 03:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. She already did Obama a huge favor by blowing his |
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jgraz
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Look at how Howard Dean worked for Kerry's election in 2004 |
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democrattotheend
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #24 |
102. Agreed |
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Cha
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #102 |
106. When did she release her delegates? |
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democrattotheend
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Late last night |
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Cha
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Oh shoots..I'm |
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Darth_Kitten
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
43. Well, he WAS a two term President, he could do any damn thing he wanted to after that. |
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Major Hogwash
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. That's not what I meant. |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Bill is a racist??????? |
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Arkansas Granny
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. I believe this event happened in 2004 while Bill was recovering from surgery: |
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karynnj
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
119. Clinton hurt Kerry more than helped - but in hard to see passive aggressive ways |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
129. Hogwash |
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Darth_Kitten
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. She's a woman, she knows how to work, hon. |
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jgraz
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #42 |
85. But can she iron my shirt? |
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emilyg
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Tue Jun-10-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
144. I want your kitten to aim at DU-P. |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. So she doesn't get to lead even her own rabid supporters? |
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mamalone
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Have I ever told you.... |
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SwampG8r
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
57. me too frenchie is da bomb |
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Cha
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
110. Could you tell her to stop lying |
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JTFrog
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Can't you fucking people ever take responsibility for ANYTHING? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
74. No it isn't , it's a failure of YOUR candidate to trust and inspire the rest of us. |
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jgraz
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #74 |
86. So, it was just her job to divide the party and piss everybody off? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. She was his opponent, not his sister. |
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jgraz
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Actually, I thought she was his cranky old aunt |
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mcctatas
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. I guess even "the goddess of peace" doesn't have the ability |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
77. Well, start throwing up........ |
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PatGund
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #77 |
88. If they're not willing to vote for the nominee..... |
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John Q. Citizen
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #77 |
115. How many? And how would you know so much about them? |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
141. God, what is this shit about people throwing up in their mouths?? |
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onetwo
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. Most of her 18 mil came from 10-minute decision primary voters who will fall in line in November. |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Shouldn't that be Hillary that should address the situation? |
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onetwo
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Right... |
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Oleladylib
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. I don't think so. |
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4themind
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. We need to be careful about |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Well, fine.....I wait. |
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cboy4
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Tue Jun-10-08 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. You have until noon on Wednesday Frenchie and then |
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Maddy McCall
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. ... |
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cboy4
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Oh there will be multiple heads exploding. |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
79. I doubt that the arrogant man will even ask. |
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Saturday
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. *applause* nt |
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JohnnyLib2
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Nice, calm response. |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
142. Man your're trying to reason with a doorknob. |
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cboy4
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. What a terrible insult to good and decent doorknobs throught |
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Youphemism
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
23. Yes, she got them upset in the past, but at this point... |
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ima_sinnic
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
25. she has not been a "leader" on anything since the early 90s, with her healthcare thing |
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Oleladylib
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
27. So it was her fault when she was in it, it's her fault when she is out of it... |
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CreekDog
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
29. People are responsible for their own behavior |
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Iceburg
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Tue Jun-10-08 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. Frenchie are you a Freeper or do you simply not accept Obama's leadership on unity?/nt |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
133. Oh come on, she just enjoys rattling her cage and telling the |
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sufrommich
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Tue Jun-10-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. And yet others get tombstoned for far less vitriol. |
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MonkeyFunk
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Tue Jun-10-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. That's the most stunning thing |
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
33. If the tables were reversed...... |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
136. I will never forget the " I hate her f**king guts" thread. |
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JoFerret
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
35. Stop harping and wallowing |
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
36. Obama clearly has no effect over you. |
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Lilith Velkor
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. What a leader! |
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Saturday
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
37. Bitter, bitter, bitter. nt |
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Darth_Kitten
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
41. Geez, what is it to you if people don't blindly follow your chosen leader? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
80. They act like the Borg. |
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Phillycat
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
107. No shit! |
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Independent-Voter
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
45. Wierd, ain't it? |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
46. It is not up to Clinton to sway voters. It is up to Obama to earn voters |
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ClassWarrior
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. So then you agree that Clinton has absolutely no leadership... |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You are setting up a straw man. |
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ClassWarrior
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Nobody said Clinton "must" anything. The OP simply observed that HRC... |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Well, again. She is a leader. She is just not the head of a cult. |
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ClassWarrior
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Just like that? No proof necessary? She just needs a cult member to declare it? |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. you stopped making sense two posts ago |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Unlike someone else who comes to mind........... |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
138. Obama has not succeeded in leading his most devoted |
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #60 |
118. Her supporters are also powerful and strong and brilliant... |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
137. By that premise, Obama appears not to have much influence |
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
99. Actually, it's up to Clinton to lead her supporters to the nominee |
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MonkeyFunk
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Tue Jun-10-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
49. Will you guys shut the fuck up with this nonstop hectoring? |
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SwampG8r
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. okay thats twice now |
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
51. One major |
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Blue-Jay
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
100. If you actually think that, |
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Raineyb
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #51 |
103. Have you read the numerous nonsensical practically identical |
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JVS
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
53. I'd be more impressed with the sincerety of some of the Hillary supporters who claim that they... |
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
54. You are the only one left spewing anger at Hillary and her Supporters... |
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burythehatchet
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
61. Hillary pulled the pin out of the grenade. Her campaign |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I cannot let this BS continue. That is a lie. |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. amen! |
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ClassWarrior
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Links please. Or are these "faith-based facts" too? |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Seriously. You know the history of the last two months as well as I do. |
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ClassWarrior
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. "You know the history of the last two months as well as I do..." |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. look at my thumb... |
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Doityourself
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. There you have it. It's bullshit..and the poster knows it. Can't prove it..just throw it out there |
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Raineyb
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #73 |
112. Do they have links |
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Doityourself
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
90. You got a link where Obama called the Clinton's racist? If not...then STFU with the lies. |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. amazing |
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Doityourself
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #92 |
96. You said Obama..please post the link. I'm begging you please..or you know what to do..oh and btw |
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SIMPLYB1980
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
124. Well said! |
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
62. Shouldn't you be helping move forward and getting Obama elected? |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
63. give it a fucking break frenchie .......Clinton released her delegates last night... |
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cboy4
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
95. No, I want her to keep it up so she gets her ass TD'd. |
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seaglass
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
132. Yep, I am really looking forward to this next week and seeing this |
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lumpy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #95 |
139. The damage done by these so-called Obama 'supporters' |
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Beacool
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
70. Obsess much??? |
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
71. How many of the "18 mil" were from Operation Chaos and Diebold (0 votes for Obama in Harlem??) |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Tue Jun-10-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
72. The vast majority of Clinton supporters will vote for Obama |
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LanternWaste
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
82. I fully supported Sen. Clinton from day one until |
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SeaLyons
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
83. It's attitudes like yours that prolong unity in our party.... |
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Yes We Did
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
87. Frenchie... It's time to move forward. |
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11 Bravo
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Tue Jun-10-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
94. When your candidate speaks, do you genuflect, drop to your knees, and swear obeisance? |
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Orsino
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Tue Jun-10-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
97. She has plenty of effect... |
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renate
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Tue Jun-10-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
98. FrenchieCat, I adore you unreservedly |
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JoFerret
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
101. Stop whining. |
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TexasObserver
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
105. 60% of Hillary's voters have already moved to Obama |
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cbayer
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
108. OK, I am really confused. |
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Forkboy
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
114. Both you and her defenders are wrong in this thread. |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. And hasn't it been less than three whole days? |
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Forkboy
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Yep. |
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Schema Thing
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
116. Sycophants are the same everywhere. cf. Wes Clark's CCN blog |
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tandot
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Tue Jun-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
117. Here ya go: |
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BlackVelvet04
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
120. No, Hillary doesn't get to decide who people vote for.... |
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BlooInBloo
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
121. If Clinton isn't lying, and REALLY wants to help Obama... |
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
123. YOU are unbelievable! |
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
125. They weren't voting for her, they were voting against Obama , there's difference |
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Tue Jun-10-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
126. Interesting point. |
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
131. Excellent point - surprised I didn't think of it first! |
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
134. And Obama can't shut up his hateful, lying supporters |
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Tue Jun-10-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #134 |
140. Wow... |
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Tue Jun-10-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #140 |
146. No, I don't call Obama names |
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Tue Jun-10-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
148. She lied and used some pretty divisive tactics |
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