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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:21 AM Original message |
George Will is essentially saying Obama's election is unconstitutional |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm pretty damn sure if George Will voted, he voted for Obama. |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh derision and division the motivation of the bitter |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Of those not rewarded... don't forget Williams Jennings Bryan |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. And those who were: John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. The selection of a president via popular arts didn't bother him |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Actually it's not rubbish at all |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Did he write such drivel when his hero Ronald Reagan was elected? |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Bingo. I'm somehow thinking that he wrote another article had McCain won? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. Will's commentary is about the election process, not Obama. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I agree |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:39 AM Original message |
A to B |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
37. I read the article, and I disagree with your conclusions. |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
66. In fact, it better applies to his 2 months of slamming the Mccain/Palin campaign |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Interesting that this JUST occurred to GW, then, isn't it? He HAS been around a while. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I agree, especially with his writings during the campaigns in mind. |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. He writes |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. You're being incredibly selective. |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. And you are missing my point |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. We are destined to disagree. |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I have no problem with agreeing to disagree. |
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That Guy 888 (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #29 |
59. I've never read him before, is his use of "long march" a veiled way to call Obama a communist ? |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. yea... let's look at what George Will said about the Mccain/Palin campaign |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Thank you for that. Will's analysis that you quote is, of course, highly intellectual. |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. He needs to go back underground and join some think tank |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Mr. Will is irrelevant. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Actually not. With any luck, he represents the last hope of intellectual conservativism. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Will's intellectual? |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Thank you - I've long thought George Swill was grossly over-rated as an |
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Cosmocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #47 |
63. S P O T O N ... |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. In this case I partially agree |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. While it is true the Framers Disdained "political parties"....... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. they really disdained faction, which was not a synonym for parties |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. Article 6 Section 9 |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. This is just Will saying "He is all show" in a slightly different way |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. Will's trying to win back the good graces of the Freepers. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I think he has a case of Bill Moyers-envy. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
18. I think that's a rather over the top reading of Will's column |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. But he says it using inflammatory statements |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
56. I've read it several times and don't see where he has said its become "unconstitutional" |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. No, what I mean is that it will be interpreted as him arguing Obama's election was unconstitutional |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
19. I think he is saying that every election from 1800 is against the Founders wishes |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Arcane! Perfect description. |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
20. This is not his founders' America |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. By the way, election of senators by popular vote is also against the Founders' wishes |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. If the 2008 election was unconstitutional, then all the others have been too. |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. Too bad there's no place there to leave a comment |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
24. The notion that the founders |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Don't cite any actual scholarship in rhetorical history |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
28. These douche nozzles are trying to deflate Obama just like they did to Clinton |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
30. He's right |
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dascientist (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. PING |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Beautiful! Well, said. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
32. What I Learned: The Founders were deeply anti-democratic |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Were you under the impression that this country was EVER democratic? |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
34. George is masquerading as an intellectual again |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Masquerade? Really. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
35. Oh George sit down! Everyone knows 'The Founders... “were deeply interested in leaders deploying... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
40. The Founders intended we just vote for the electors and trust them |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Exactly. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
44. Kurt Vonnegut mocked George Will as "that A student." |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
46. Respectfully disagree. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
48. Did he say this about Reagan? nt |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
52. That 'woosh' noise is the point flying over your head. |
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symbolman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
55. Gore Vidal once wrote that everything a right winger says (or writes) |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
57. "Unconstitutional" is a strong word as used here. Sorry, don't agree. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
58. George Will should retire to just writing heady books about baseball |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
61. Did George Will care about the Constitution when * and Cheney were tearing it up? |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
62. Um WTF, the article is dated vor November 17th 2009?!?!? (nt) |
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dalus (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm sick and tired... |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
68. Didn't see him write this when Reagan aka "The Great Communicator" was elected. n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
69. Has anyone else ever noticed that Will's writing usually makes no logical sense |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
70. Words that go together |
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