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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 09:59 PM Original message |
Why do we even have teachers? |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not everyone uses books to teach. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I got an F in ceramics when I was in high school. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'm sorry. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Bonus points for coining "pottery demagoguery" |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Ah Zombie that is sad! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 03:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Typesetting boxes! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
37. My son got an F for making a big pizza |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
117. Is that unfair? n/t |
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Synicus Maximus (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
146. sounds reasonable |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. It sounds cute as the Dickens, like for a miniature house! |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. hate it when instructors/teachers do that |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. I understand what you are saying completely. I felt better about it |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'd say rather it's impossible to quantify expected student success generally. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. So that "progressives" can have at least one group of organized laborers to hate. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. They are wicked! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Do you honestly believe that the union designs the curriculum and sets state policies? |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. They have their paws in everything..... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Deleted message |
sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Wingnut? |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
50. I strongly disagree with your comments. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Dumbing down |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
142. I've worked with Teachers Unions and believe it or not ........... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
72. I taught in a non-union school for two years. Never again. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
143. Hold on a sec .......... |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
80. Your information about the teachers union is way, way off. |
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byrok (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
111. Bullshit. That's all I can say about your post. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
101. I thought we hated cops. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. That was last week |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. When do we get around to hating Gilbert Gottfried? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I'll keep my eyes open for you |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
125. Beat you to it. I got started on that twenty years ago. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. I will just stand by with a fire extinguisher. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. History of modern schooling |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. Good teachers can convey context and relevance. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. if people did sit in a classroom for a year and tried to do this job, they would |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. +1 |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. You don't know what "everyone" thinks! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
59. Fine. Good for you. I was speaking of my own multi decade experience |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
88. It's pretty hard to take you seriously. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Even though she produced only |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. So... she went above and beyond the call of duty for your child... |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. NO. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. Deleted message |
sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Me? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. ah, Gatto. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Did you find a box for me now? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. let's call it a couple of panels of the box. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. :-) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Exactly. |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. I agree |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. My son couldn't learn without his teachers. Not every kid out there |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. a very few |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. These are teachers that started with regular classes, and then learned |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
66. You wouldn't want to back that claim up with facts, would you? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. STBX got away with a C as a pre-med. I couldn't have. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. That's not true at all. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I don't paint all with the same broad brush |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. When you attack the NEA, you do. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. The most toxic teachers |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. No, they continued because you had a crappy principal. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. No. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
136. I will always agree that the system is broken. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. Jesus god. Because we have PARENTS!! |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. most kids have to attend school |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Well of course, we can't possibly hold parents responsible |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Not what I said. Feel free to obfuscate. |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. Teachers cannot prescribe medication, only doctors can |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Teacher's label kids adhd and add all the time, simply because |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Bullshit |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Our experience was quite different |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. You'd be amazed at how little education they get on making that diagnosis, too. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
94. That is a complete fabrication |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Cool! Glad to hear it! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. LOL yep it's pretty obvious you aren't discussing good teachers |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. I'm very glad that if you did that you'd |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. You have no documentation |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. taken out of context |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
130. umm |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Same reason we have mothers, to spoil your fun. |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. Here's a better idea: |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
147. So your solution is to reward bad teachers with the ............ |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. I wonder about your premise. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
131. like people in every profession |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. Former and future teacher here. Let me say this. I could support merit pay IF AND ONLY IF |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. I agree |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #32 |
52. No thanks. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Children will learn what they "need" to know |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
77. Sorry, I don't subscribe to that |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
99. No, it was not insinuated.... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. I disagree with both of the popular arguments and I used to be a teacher |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
70. There's a problem with this approach |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. I often ask that question myself since every Tom, Dick, and Harry seems to think |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. The system is broken |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
18. So lousy parents have someone besides themselves to blame for why their |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Damn straight. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
24. Because they lie to cover their own and their colleagues' incompetence. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
36. False choice. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. NEA |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Education is not "an industry" with standardized products. And if you've ever been on a faculty (as |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. There are no standardized students so why |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Ask George W. Bush. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
84. butbutbut accountability! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:18 AM Response to Original message |
41. Teachers' salaries ARE ALREADY tied to experience AND to continuing education/higher degrees. |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
42. This is one issue I wish Obama would just leave alone. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Your point about spinning results based on the political calculus of unions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
45. You misstated the arguments. It's not that teachers can't be evaluated |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. To me, the "fire" is "LOCAL CONTROL". If the Prez wants in, make public education FEDERAL. |
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Lorax (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #48 |
137. Actually, in some places it DOES mean that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
51. Obama is doing wonders. He is turning people against teachers. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
53. because some kids DO want to learn? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
55. My daughters attend |
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DemocracyInaction (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
56. #1 reason: to babysit your brats |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Obama went to public school |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
81. He most certainly did not |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. He went to public school in Indonesia |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. And that is related to the public schools in the US in what way? |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. His children attended public schools in chicago |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. His kids went to a laboratory school at a university |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
115. A public school is a public school |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. you think teachers are not evaluated now? |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
62. "Stave off this public ... |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. I suggest going one step further than merit pay |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. I'll flip it around: PARENTS get charged a FEE for every mark their child gets below an A+ |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
122. I don't think it's insane. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
68. Send the President an email. No merit pay. It's a waste of money. |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
73. Why? Parents sometimes can't abuse their own kids. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
75. I agree. Apparently, everyone and his pet frog is qualified to do homeschooling. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
124. Critters, you crazy!! LMAO!!! |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
85. The same reason that Police Officers shouldn't be paid based on crimes NOT committed. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
91. It is a two way street; the student has to want to learn and behave |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 02:38 AM Response to Reply #91 |
139. You forgot the part |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
103. amazing |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #103 |
132. I hope you're not talking about me |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. not sure what you mean |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
112. to give you someone about whom to complain. |
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urgk (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
116. I'd appreciate it if the college students in my classroom |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #116 |
128. I strongly agree, especially that last sentence. |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 02:41 AM Response to Reply #116 |
140. Home schooling? |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
119. I think the basic sentiment is teachers don't want to compete they want to teach to the best of> |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
126. Just because the two are true |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #126 |
133. if you can say they do benefit, with some confidence, |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #126 |
144. each and every |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-13-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
129. This is a totally specious argument by somebody who has evidently |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 02:45 AM Response to Reply #129 |
141. Schools do differ enormously |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-14-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
135. Would you provide rotten lumber to one carpenter but prime lumber to another, |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
138. To turn stupid kids into stupid adults. |
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shayes51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-15-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
145. Until we return the control of classrooms back |
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