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Tue Nov-03-09 06:07 PM
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Ed Schultz is acting stupidly. |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:07 PM by Drunken Irishman
Flame me if you want...I don't give a shit. His crapehanging is pathetic.
I normally like him and I think he's somewhat intelligent on most issues. However, he's acting like a stooge on this one. It doesn't take much smarts to poke holes in his bullshit argument that this election isn't going to go the Democrats way because of Pres. Obama.
Who has better approval ratings right now in New Jersey - Obama or Corzine? Do the fucking math.
Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.
If the Democrats go 0-3 tonight, it has nothing to do with Pres. Obama. Absolutely nothing. It has nothing to do with healthcare. It has everything to do with an incumbent who has had to fight high unpopularity for a year now and a challenger in Virginia who ran a pisspoor campaign.
It's that simple, Ed.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:09 PM
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1. I'm with you on this one.... |
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They are flipping Governor's races and concern only the voters in those states and their CRAPPY candidates.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:09 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:10 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:49 PM
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26. Yeah, he goes in an out..how much effort |
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could it take to think outside the corporatemediawhore box on this?
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:10 PM
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3. I can never stand to listen to him. |
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I don't know, he always rubs me the wrong way.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:10 PM
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4. It's bizarre how just a few races can be interpreted to be a referendum on Obama. |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:01 PM
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too much football without a helmet!
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:10 PM
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5. Big Ed has a Small Brain but a Loud Voice...such a brutal combination |
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:11 PM
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7. Well, that's the narrative the media is running with. Surprised ED has hopped on the |
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bandwagon.
By the way, don't they elect a lot of Republican governors in Virginia? That one is supposed to be "all about Obama" too. RIDICULOUS>
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:11 PM
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8. He acts like a fool sometimes. I like him most of the time |
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But he overreacts and speaks without thinking sometimes.
And he also needs to learn that the polls don't close until 8 in NJ, so he needs to watch what the hell he says
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:11 PM
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9. Sucks to be him now... |
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He really is bumming me out lately... and he's spouting pure RW talking points here.
They framed these elections to be all about Obama... and they are NOT!
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:49 PM
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36. I'm with you on this. |
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I was liking him up until the past few weeks. But, he and his hand-wringing are really starting to grate on me. Ditto on the RW talking points.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:12 PM
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10. I waited the WHOLE live long day until now to take out the garbage.. |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:13 PM by Clio the Leo
.... so I could do it during Ed's show because I knew this was going to happen. ('cause it's not like I can change the channel or something! lol) I generally enjoy his show because he has the best guests on IMO.
Did you hear the letter he topped off with? The woman who wrote, "I expected change to happen immediately!" ...... CLEARLY she wasn't paying attention to the President's speech on election night.
And lest there be any confusion, it's not that I have a problem with criticism of the President. Keith and Rachel have had their moments .... but their moments seemed based on rational thought and informed opinion. Ed's just spouting off.
Okey dokey .... bananna's all finished .... garbage can, here I come!
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:26 PM
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15. she was probably disappointed the day after her pregnancy test, when the baby did not pop out |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:26 PM by SoCalDem
:rofl:
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:39 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:39 PM
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22. and registered to vote |
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:41 PM
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in a Democratic primary.... |
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.... in an effort to unseat the incumbent Democrat, draining him of his money and causing him to lose to the GOP in the fall. :)
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:41 PM
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:41 PM by Clio the Leo
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:12 PM
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11. he tends to do that from time to time. plus....I mean...he's a guy! |
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:13 PM
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12. He's getting nuts. Sometimes it seems like Ed, Arianna and Bill Maher are just talking to each |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:16 PM by Pirate Smile
other.
He's off my DVR recordings now. That's my little protest.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:23 PM
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13. Most talking heads are professional shit-stirrers. The only two I watch have worked in Congress. nt |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:25 PM by ClarkUSA
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:25 PM
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14. 99.99999% of Americans are not paying bit of attention to anything MSNBC says |
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or CNN or even Fox..
and probably most people in those areas where there are elections, will not even vote today.
We are "tuned in" so we notice every little detail..but most people are not like us :)
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:29 PM
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16. Never cared for his show. |
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Kieth's show is much better and Rachel's show blows away both of them. I am watching Ed now and he is boring the shit out of me.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:35 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:43 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:45 PM
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25. Thanks. I learned something new! nt |
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:37 PM
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18. Ed sometimes just presents liberal ideas in a Reich Wing fashion |
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All yelling and facts be damned. I like him but he's a bit simplistic in how he goes over issues.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:37 PM
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19. Ed runs hot and cold. |
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I appreciate the huge effort he's put into health care reform. It just seems like he's become negative and depressed the last few days. Hopefully he will get over it.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:38 PM
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20. I am with you to he has come off as ignorant lately. |
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:51 PM
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27. So AFTER an MSNBC NJ poll says that 60% said Obama was not a factor... |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 06:57 PM by Clio the Leo
.... in their vote and 55% of VA voters said the same thing, Ed puts on a pouty face while Doris Kearns Goodwin denounces his argument.
Poor Ed.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:52 PM
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28. Oh dear...is there room under |
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the Obamabus for Ed???
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Tue Nov-03-09 08:56 PM
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33. I liike Ed but he has come off as ignorant at times. I like Thom Hartmann the most because he is |
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intellectual. I am considered to be an Obama hater.
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:24 PM
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47. It's interesting how so many DUers don't like Randi Rhodes, but of all the so-called liberal |
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or progressive talkers, she and Thom have been the most level-headed, the most politically and intellectually astute, and very, very well informed. As much as I love Ed, Rachel, Keith, Mike Malloy...they are all screaming and complaining, almost sounding shrill. Randi has become much more even-tempered, even when wingnuts call into her show. She doesn't yell at them as she used to. I'm a liberal AND a pragmatist. We have to understand the kind of political climate that we're currently in.
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:26 PM
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48. agreed Thom is probably the best progressive voice on radio |
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the man is well rounded and has an amazing command of all sorts of facts. I learn something every time i listen to him.
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Tue Nov-03-09 06:58 PM
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29. I don't watch him any more. I can't stand the yelling. |
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Tue Nov-03-09 08:46 PM
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30. R U serious? Bailout for Billionairres and Pay or Punish Crapsurance has done us in! PLUS |
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More war in Iraqistan, no punishment for banksters and war criminals!
There's your clue....
Of course, that's just my opinion, and millions like me....
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Tue Nov-03-09 08:48 PM
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31. Brace yourselves, folks. Come tomorrow the Repubs will be claiming they took back America |
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:04 PM
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42. If this was a mid-term election I would be upset. But, this is just spin. |
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When all of President Obama's programs and hard work come to fruition, the Republican's are going to be left behind in a cloud of dust.
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Tue Nov-03-09 08:51 PM
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32. I had to stop watching his show. |
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It's one thing to be passionate, it's another to be a screamer. And Ed has turned into a screamer.
Ed has also turned into Captain Hyperbole.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:45 PM
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35. If Corzine loses, it will indicate, at the least, that Obama does not help a candidate |
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Which will make 2010 very interesting: we'll see a whole lot of Democrats NOT wanting Obama to show up and campaign for them.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:54 PM
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I feel like I just fell off the train into Bizarro World.
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:00 PM
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41. Frankly, I see it as not even Obama could have helped Corzine. Obama shouldn't of wasted his time. |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 10:01 PM by wisteria
If Corizine loses it is because the people of his state think they are way over taxed. In that kind of climate all it takes is a challenger to say he is not going to raise taxes and will return some of it to the people.
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Wed Nov-04-09 01:40 AM
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52. No it just means he can't save an incumbent who is already screwed |
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I guarantee you there will be more Democrats that want the President to come campaign for them than the President has time for.
What this does mean is that when Senator X who is in a tough re-election battle is being asked to vote for a bill the President wants, Senator X isn't going to be swayed when the President tells him that in exchange for his vote he will make a bunch of campaign stops in Senator X's state and that will almost guarantee he is re-elected. And quite frankly that is an unrealistic expectation. Presidents, no matter how popular they are, just don't have that kind of power.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:52 PM
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37. I want to rec. or unrec. this thread, but I'm not being told what Schultz said |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:53 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:58 PM
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40. They have to have something to spin. n/t |
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:06 PM
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43. I podcast Ed and DVR his show. I haven't watched in weeks and thinking about |
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unsubscribing from his podcast. He's not being very smart or pragmatic about the true nature of governing. It's so easy for him and Bill Maher to sit and pontificate and complain about what Obama is and is not doing. It's altogether another thing for them to understand how difficult it is to oversee public policy. They blame Obama, but don't understand basic Civics 101! There are three separate and distinct branches of government, each having its own powers and responsibilities. And yet, Schultz doesn't seem to fully grasp these concepts so eloquently written in Federalist Papers numbers 47 and 51. Perhaps he needs to go and re-read those papers.
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:09 PM
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44. Is his show on iTunes? I podcast Rachel and Keith on iTunes, but I never get to see Ed |
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because last time I check his show wasn't on there.
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Tue Nov-03-09 10:14 PM
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45. No. You have to go to his website, wegoted.com, and subscribe to the podcast there. |
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Wed Nov-04-09 12:02 AM
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49. not the presidents fault, but... it is OUR fault, and the partys. |
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whether ya like it or not.
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Wed Nov-04-09 12:49 AM
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50. Ed Schultz isn't acting stupidly, he's just making an intellectually dishonest argument |
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He knows that the New Jersey gubernatorial race isn't a referendum on Obama but he doesn't care. He wants people to believe it is a referendum on Obama because it helps his argument that Obama needs to move to the left.
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Wed Nov-04-09 12:51 AM
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51. We didn't get our ASS handed to us |
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in New York and California for House of Reps, big ed.
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