Florida lawmakers consider ban on bestiality

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Miami Herald

Posted on Wednesday, 03.11.09
Florida lawmakers consider ban on bestiality
Florida lawmakers are pushing legislation that would make having sex with animals a felony.
BY MARC CAPUTO
Herald/Times Tallahassee Bureau

TALLAHASSEE -- The act of bestiality is a step closer to becoming illegal in Florida now that a Senate agriculture committee voted to slap a third-degree felony charge on anyone who has sex with animals.

Florida is one of only 16 states that still permit bestiality -- a fact that animal-rights activist and Sen. Nan Rich learned to her horror three years ago when a Panhandle man was suspected of accidentally asphyxiating a family goat that he held by the collar during a sex act.

''There's a tremendous correlation between sexually deviant behavior and crimes against children and crimes against animals,'' said Rich, a Sunrise Democrat. ``This is long overdue. These are heinous crimes. And people belong in jail.''

But the Mossy Head man suspected of assaulting Meg the goat was never charged, because law enforcement officials could not link him to the scene. The suspect was arrested months later in a separate goat abduction, said Walton County Assistant State Attorney Walter Parker.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/943463.html

[Hekate]

1. Wasn't Dumbledore's brother Aberforth suspected of something goatish too?...

... and how long before this Miami Herald story makes an appearance in one of Carl Hiaassen's novels? I swear that guy just rips half his stuff from the headlines in Florida.

Hekate

[BamaGirl]

5. And it makes for good fiction

go figure. :shrug: Don't ask me. I agree that we have an appreciation for the absurd in the South, but this does not count.

[Hekate]

7. I agree. I think it counts as animal cruelty if you strangle the animal. Great ick factor...

... and yet grotesquely comic. :wow:

Hekate

[Syrinx]

13. Florida doesn't count as the south

At least that's what they say when it's something good.

[DaLittle Kitty]

24. Dumbass MF'ers... But I'll Betcha Ole Mossback Still Goes Ta Meet'n On Sunday!

Hypocritical friggin state Florida is!

[Maraya1969]

27. Color me dumb but who are Dumbledore and Aberforth?

[litlady]

29. Harry Potter series nt

[Syrinx]

2. I saw a documentary on Sundance...

About a man that bled to death after letting a stallion have his way with him.

There are some really weird people in the world.

[No Elephants]

4. Do you think a statute would have stopped him?

[greenkal]

6. Maybe or maybe not

but at least the horse would have had a law to protect itself from such abuse.

[Syrinx]

9. probably not

I don't remember what state it was in. There probably was a statute.

EDIT: With regards to this thread, maybe your handle is good advice. :D

[Grinchie]

3. So Florida gave us Contagious Equine Metritis (CEM)?

In December 2008, the Kentucky Department of Agriculture announced that a Quarter Horse stallion tested positive for Contagious Equine Metritis (CEM), a foreign animal disease not found in the United States, during routine testing for international semen shipment. Contagious Equine Metritis is a transmissible, exotic venereal disease in horses which usually results in infertility in mares and, on rare occasions, can cause mares to spontaneously abort. Infected stallions exhibit no clinical signs but can carry the CEM bacteria for years.

A full epidemiological investigation is underway to locate, test and quarantine any potentially exposed horses. Currently a total of nine stallions have been confirmed positive for CEM, four located in Kentucky, three in Indiana, one in Wisconsin and one in Texas. The Indiana and Texas stallions spent time on the central Kentucky premises during the 2008 breeding season. The Friesian stallion from Wisconsin was not in Kentucky, but was co-located during the 2007 breeding season in Wisconsin with one of the CEM-positive stallions that was on the Kentucky premises in 2008.

In addition to the 9 positive stallions, the locations of 374 exposed horses have also been confirmed. The total of 383 horses includes 51 stallions and 332 mares located in a total of 42 States. The 51 positive or exposed stallions are located in 12 States, and the 332 exposed mares are in 39 States. There are 97 exposed mares and 1 stallion still actively being traced. All of the horses that have tested positive for CEM and all exposed horses that have been located are currently under quarantine or are on a hold order. Testing of all associated horses is underway, as well as treatment of those found to be CEM positive.

Because of this CEM outbreak, Canada has imposed additional restrictions on horse imports from the U.S. into Canada. Additional certification for horses (including Canadian horses returning to Canada but excluding horses for immediate slaughter) will be required on all U.S. export health certificates issued after January 19, 2009 and for Canadian horses exported to the U.S. after January 19, 2009 and returning on a Canadian health certificate. The new certification statements are reflected in point 4 and 5 of the protocol. At the present moment, the import permit for the U.S. origin horses is not required, except for the horses from Florida where it is still required because of the recent Equine Piroplasmosis situation.

http://www.das.psu.edu/news/cem-outbreak-and-canadian-restrictions

And people wonder where new disease comes from... The restriction of basic biology, sex education and healthy habits is a travesty in the U.S. The only way sexually active individuals can learn about sex is via the internet, other ignorant friends or from Cosmopolitan Magazine, or the Florida based Animal Husbandry quarterly.

[radfringe]

8. Does that mean the NOPers can't marry anymore?

:spank: :evilgrin:

[EFerrari]

10. It means the Miami Herald may be going out of business!

[Judi Lynn]

12. True enough! They're on their last legs.

Serves'em right for catering to the right-wing fascist crowd in South Florida.

[onethatcares]

11. good thing we're not broke or the legislature

isn't thinking about "borrowing" from the pre paid college fund, or that we're in a severe drought and are debating water restrictions, or that we're right up there with California on the foreclosure front, or our homeowners insurance rates suck, or the myriad other things our reps should be thinking about. But, no, they have a one track mind, always thinking about sex, sex, sex.

I'm about ready to go live in the desert.

[snake in the grass]

14. I know someone who will be upset by this;

Neal Horsley, the publisher of the addresses of abortion services providers, a moral giant who crosses out the names of those on his list who have been eliminated. In an interview with Alan Colmes he not only admitted to having sex with barnyard animals, but went so far as to claim that this is the norm in the rural U.S.

Relevant segment of the interview:

At first, Horsley laughed and said, "Just because it's printed in the media, people jump to believe it."

"Is it true?" Colmes asked.

"Hey, Alan, if you want to accuse me of having sex when I was a fool, I did everything that crossed my mind that looked like I..."

AC: "You had sex with animals?"

NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule."

AC: "I'm not so sure that that is so."

NH: "You didn't grow up on a farm in Georgia, did you?"

AC: "Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?"

NH: It has historically been the case. You people are so far removed from the reality... Welcome to domestic life on the farm..."




His statements do not surprise me at all.

Edited to add photo.

[Hekate]

25. I once had a boyfriend who swore syphilis was originally a disease of sheep....

Anyhow this guy Horsely is seriously creepy.

Hekate

[OneBlueSky]

15. Limbaugh's in town . . . Hide the manatees! . . . n/t

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[Judi Lynn]

16. Yes, indeed, hide those kindly critters from a fate worse than death!

As you may have seen last week on CNN, Rush is in his Par-tay mood. There's no stopping him now. He can only be eased onto a sidetrack.

You Tube, Rush bouncing during his CPAC speech last week.

"Jump Around"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL_Qf-3cWE&feature=channel_page

[Eryemil]

17. What a fucking waste of time -- irrational and silly

Banning bestiality in the name of animal rights is one of the most illogical, ridiculous ideas I've heard in a long time.

So it's OK to torture a bull for meat for the entirety of its short and miserable life but it's somehow 'animal abuse' to give it a blow job?

Talk about fucked up people. This is NOT about animal rights and anyone that says otherwise should be laughed at.

Bestiality now, bestiality tomorrow!
Yes, it's true, I don't think there's anything particularly objectionable about bestiality as long as the animals are not hurt.

[napoleon_in_rags]

18. The real irony is if he had just strangled the goat and ate it,

it would be fine. I don't think people have really put it together in their head where meat comes from. Its the same as people who complain about the "cruelty" in hunting, but have no problem eating burgers with beef produced from places a thousand times more torturous than anything a wild animal experiences.

[Maraya1969]

28. You just reminded me of something I saw on TV. HBO's real sex

had a man who was "in love" with his pony. He was french kissing it. That is whey up on my ick factor but I guess he had the right to do so and the pony was probably a lot happier than some of the ones I see standing alone in a pasture all day.

So if no one is hurt I guess I'm ok with it.

[Tab]

19. Hey, if you can stick it to an alligator

more power to you

[booksenkatz]

20. There will be numbers in both yea and nay columns, I guarantee it

I lived in Florida for 7 years -- both sides will be well and thoroughly argued. Remember, they are only CONSIDERING a ban; you know, weighing the pros and cons. Perhaps some animals should be spared, others not. Most of the votes against the ban will come from the Panhandle, Stark and Green Cove Springs areas. (This was my Florida experience; your mileage may vary.)

Isn't it sad that it wasn't already illegal? Sheesh.

[Eryemil]

21. "Isn't it sad that it wasn't already illegal? Sheesh."

No. I personally think it is rather sensible. Not that it was legal for the right reasons obviously, they'd probably rather pretend such things didn't exist. Out of sight, out of mind.

[Eryemil]

22. Forgot to add:

It's also a tough issue to politicize. The morality Nazis were probably not interested in it because they simply could not use it to demonize and oppress large, visible or consistent swaths of the population. Like anti-women, anti-gay and such where the moral outrage also serves as the mask for a political agenda.

[Sancho]

23. FL: you can have legal sex with a pig, & amend the constitution to treat it humanly

we seriously need to get rid of this insane legislature!

[Mira]

26. I just got an order for three shirts that say "Baaaaa means NO !!" from a DUer

she said that Florida people might be interested. I posted about it in DU Marketplace.
Go figure !