my thoughts on the tammy endorsement brouhaha

[mopinko]

so much bullshit goes around when loyalty and honesty are at odds. i have no idea what is going on behind closed doors here. i can only assume, based on little real knowledge, which is what everyone else here is also doing. this real knowledge i do have- these are all good people. they are not crybabies. they are people operating out of integrity and principles. and out of deep concern for the democratic party. i do not think that anyone is acting out of hurt feelings and pettiness. i do not have any idea what, specifically, is bothering christine and co, but if i were to speculate and guess like everyone else, i would have to say that something happened that goes beyond winning and losing, and certainly beyond cafta and health care.
maybe they have specific concerns about the vote counting. i sure do. maybe it is something else. maybe there were serious dirty tricks perpetrated. i wouldn't be surprised.
loyalty is a tricky thing. it so often butts up against principle, forcing hard choices. certainly, decent republicans had their party stolen from them when they chose loyalty over principle. i think too many in our party are making bad decisions in the face of a ruthless enemy (and in favor of unprincipled friends), choosing winning over principle. but that is me. die on my feet v live on my knees and all that. i suspect a lot of dupage dems are staggering, trying to stay on their feet. they know they face no good choices. but the road ahead is clear to a lot of them. winning without honor is just not in their vocabulary.
those on the tammy side do no credit to their candidate by calling people whiners, etc. i wish we knew all the facts. i wish democrats were all perfect. i wish that we were not facing such a monsterous regime, and did not need to make such hard choices. i wish that the my party behaved better from the get go. maybe they now reap what they have sown.
let's at least try to recognize that we do not have the facts here. let's try not to put TOO many words in people's mouths. let's hope that an official statement is forthcoming. let's hope that we stay better than the republicans. let's hope that we can come together.
unfortunately, without honesty, these wounds are unlikely to heal very well. i wish christine would spill the beans, and hope for the best. i wish rahm and co could also be honest. but that's me. i admit that might not help to beat roskam. but shut up and get in line is no way to build the party.

[kevsand]

1. Good points, all.

And well put, also. It has been very difficult for those of us on the outside to watch the bitter bickering between fellow DUers who share most of the same views and goals. I can't even imagine how difficult it has been for those on the inside.

I have always respected your passion and idealism, even when I sometimes wondered if it wasn't getting in the way of the practicalities of the short term goals. I suppose many down here in Champaign County often wonder the same things about me. Don't ever give up on your ideals or your dreams for how things should be. It's the only thing that gives you, and us, the strength to go on.

Having said that, I do think that this is perhaps one of the calmest and most perceptive posts I have seen from you since this whole thing began. Your perspective here seems dead on, to me. I thank god I wasn't in the middle of all that; I'm not sure even now which side I would have ended up on.

Thank you for being one of those who chooses to act. You really are an inspiration to many of us...

[mopinko]

3. thank you

for those kind words, i appreciate them, especially from you.

i would add to what i have said that the usual "come together or the boogey man wins" is just not going to cut it with the dupage dems. to be a dem in dupage is to fear no evil. disrespecting those guys is one of the dumbest things i have seen this party do. they are my heroes.

[madrchsod]

2. yup

i agree and we will see what happens in lane evans district out here who gets to decide who will run..but i do concede that zinga is a tool

[mopinko]

4. how do you feel about johnny?

i knew we were in trouble, election night, waiting for our totals, but seeing that he was mopping the floor with ruben. people really are hungry for fighting dems. i just hope they are, and do.

[madrchsod]

5. i have no idea

there were a few signs around but nothing from the local dems here. i suppose i wouldn`t be very popular with them..small town and all. i think john will do worse than ruben unless he decides to side with the mexican american community on the immigration issue. i know that the immigration issue is really strong in the community and i`m not sure if john has the appeal than ruben does. we will see

[mopinko]

6. well, he will have the dccc

won't he? and john kerry, and all that? it worked for tammy. or something did.