Three dead in double homicide murder (suicide) in suburban Chicago.

[sharesunited]

So...

Someone thought all his problems could be solved with a gun and a little ammo. Three rounds more or less.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2742298,elk-grove-murder-suicide-092410.article

Such a tragedy. Now carry on dying Y'all.

[Pavulon]

1. Mmm I am really enjoying some good burbon. Maybe I should go for a drive

oh wait I am a responsible adult and dont feel like using my vehicle to commit murder. Not shooting anyone tonight either.

NO ONE CARES HOW MANY OF THESE YOU POST. Its done, go get your sign with a dead fetus and head to planned parenthood. You are on par with them now.

The gun control = crime control farce is over. Just like separate but equal, law is decided. you lost, get over it or hit the streets with some fake blood to throw on your fellow citizens.

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[Katya Mullethov]

9. You can say that again

[Bold Lib]

22. Yes you can, but maybe you shouldn't. LOL

[Katya Mullethov]

23. It was completely incomprehensible ,

I would appreciate it if they would wait until one has a chance to read this stuff to the kids before it gets deleted . I feel it is an important part of their education as a voter , and why getting in to the poles is of vital import .

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[lawodevolution]

3. So again, 500 killed in mass violence event in gun free Nigeria

Nigeria is the only country on earth that has SU's qualification of being violence free. It has a gun ban and the lowest gun ownership rate on earth at 1 per 100 (2007 small arms survey), so guns and bullets are scarce. Explain this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/08/nigeria-religious-violence-jos
How can this happen in a gun free paradise?

I'll keep posting this in your threads until you address it

[lawodevolution]

5. In this thread

I showed you that living in a nation with a low gun ownership rate (like brazil) increased your risk of being murdered while living in a nation with high gun ownership rate (like France) reduces your chance of being murdered. I also backed that with a t test at 95% confidence interval for the 15 nations in each group.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=339915&mesg_id=339915

Your anecdotes only show us that people do in fact get murdered but people can figure that out by looking at FBI stats.

[safeinOhio]

10. France does have 19 million

REGISTERED guns. Another good example for us.

[Glassunion]

11. How?

Please explain how having people register their firearms would make us safer... I cannot seem to wrap my heard around the idea that if everyone were to register their firearms that crime would somehow go down.

[safeinOhio]

12. France was used as an example

of less chance of being murdered. That'd be just one variable. So, our stat expert might look at the rates of chances of being murdered in countries that have some form of registration compared to those that don't as a good indicator of chances of being murdered in countries with high gun ownership. I don't think you can use a country as an example without looking at all variables. Just as his stats show how dangerous it is to move to a country with low gun ownership, lets see how dangerous it is to move to countries that have no forms of registration. I know that being open minded and looking at the numbers, you'll want to reduce gun crime while being able to retain your rights to gun ownership.

[Glassunion]

13. I'm sorry, I must have missed your point.

How exactly does firearm registration reduce crime?

[lawodevolution]

15. Still 13 million unregistered

If they got rid of the registration I doubt crime would go up.

[lawodevolution]

17. After a glance at the list on my link

I noticed all the high crime nations have gun registration systems including brazil, Colombia, south Africa, Russia.

[cleanhippie]

21. I don't understand hoe registration will reduce crime.

That is your point, right? Please explain it again, because I don't see how that will work.

[oneshooter]

14. If registration is so good, then by all means register yours.

With the city, county, state, and federal goverments. Just leave mine alone.
Still waiting for an apology.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[spin]

20. Even if you wanted to you, couldn't in Florida ...

The 2010 Florida Statutes

790.335

Prohibition of registration of firearms; electronic records.
—
(1)

LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AND INTENT.—
(a)

The Legislature finds and declares that:

1. The right of individuals to keep and bear arms is guaranteed under both the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and s. 8, Art. I of the State Constitution.

2. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a law enforcement tool and can become an instrument for profiling, harassing, or abusing law-abiding citizens based on their choice to own a firearm and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution. Further, such a list, record, or registry has the potential to fall into the wrong hands and become a shopping list for thieves.

3. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a tool for fighting terrorism, but rather is an instrument that can be used as a means to profile innocent citizens and to harass and abuse American citizens based solely on their choice to own firearms and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution.

4. Law-abiding firearm owners whose names have been illegally recorded in a list, record, or registry are entitled to redress.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=registration+of+firearms&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.335.html

I think that sums the situation up nicely.

[safeinOhio]

24. As I have been

waiting for mine.

[virginia mountainman]

6. After the supreme court losses.

And near total rejection of their policy "recomendations", and the very public rejection of their message

Most gun control advocates have been reduced to the same level as abortion protesters and "jesus freaks". protesting on street corners and abortion clinics.

Actully those hateful groups have alot in common.

[friendly_iconoclast]

8. Elements on the political fringe tend to be more like *each other* than the majority

That's why the Revolutionary Socialist Workers Party members tend to come across like teabaggers with a different paint job and a

new hood ornament. Or vice versa. Read Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer" for more insights into the mindset. My thoughts on the

matter:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=267220

"Insights on gun control from...9/11 truthers and teabggers?!?!?"

[proteus_lives]

7. Such a tragedy. Now carry on with the campaign to strip people of their rights Y'all.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

16. "... solved with a gun and a little ammo. Three rounds more or less."

As you contend... making firearms and ammo scarce would stop these unwanted crimes.
Well in this event, only one gun and 3 rounds were used.

Just how "scarce" are you proposing to make the 300 MILLION guns and BILLIONS of rounds of ammunition to avert crimes like these? When crimes require as little as one firearm and a few bullets... what policies could you introduce to put a choke on firearm violence?

No gungrabbing strategy on earth could stop gun violence for that very reason.

[lawodevolution]

19. Authoritarian china with a gun ban has the third largest civilian gun arsenal

In the world.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

18. This tradgedy happened in Chicago. (Daly's mecca of authoritarian gun-control)

Having happened in an an area with, arguably, the strictest gun laws in the nation, why is dumbassunited blaming guns for this?

:banghead:

[mopinko]

25. it's not chicago

it is elk grove village, a completely autonomous burb.