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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:19 AM
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I can't take much more of these people ...
This stupidity - the downright willful ignorance - has gone beyond irritating, into almost frightening.

This, from The Star's "Let It Out" column (yes, I know that's where all the morons who can't compose real letters post, but still ...)

...• The Clinton administration only had a surplus because of the former Reagan and Bush administrations. He was riding their coattails. Unfortunately, President Bush is following Clinton.
...




<shakes head, sighs in disgusted amazement>
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Dextrous Scribe Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 11:50 AM
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1. Cyclical Economy
Dearest Hippie Chick,


You are correct in noting the poor construction of the comment in the "Let It Out" column of the Star. The writer could have said that we have a cyclical economy and that President Clinton benefitted by being in office during the "up" part of the cycle.

I had another way of stating this fact. The economy was not President Clinton's fault; after all he was blamed for so much.

The man was an unvarnished embarrassment to himself, the office, and unfortunately his fellow baby-boomers. I am one of those fellow baby-boomers.

You have a great day. I hope that the next Democrat President is a great person, a great American, and a great President.

Sincerely,

A fellow Hoosier
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:46 PM
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2. Um .... yeah
:eyes: Sure.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:12 AM
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6. Yes, * inheriting a surplus and turning it into the biggest deficit
... in world history would be Clinton' fault. :rofl:

Why can't these goddamn smarmy lying Republicans ever take responsibility for anything ?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:21 AM
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8. Because people like Bush are sociopaths
They have no empathy. They blame everyone else for their troubles. They think they are better than everyone else.
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One Voice Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:47 AM
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11. How true...
I agree!
"They" make me ill...:puke:
(Sorry bout that-hehe)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:20 AM
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7. I'll take Cinton's blow jobs over Bush's 2,100 dead GIs over a lie
Talk about an embarrassment, how about Bush telling Blair he wanted to bomb a friendly country, Qatar, in order to put Al-Jazeera off the air?

Clinton did not suspend the Bill of Rights and proclaim himself dictator as Bush has.

For all his faults, and Clinton has plenty of bad policies that I hated, his "crimes" are misdemeanors compared to the genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity of Bush/Cheney regime.

If Clinton deserves a spanking or jail for his "crimes", Bush and Cheney deserve the gallows for theirs.
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:51 PM
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10. I've found that when people are jealous when another guy gets laid ...
that usually means they aren't getting any themselves.

Have a NICE DAY!
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 03:27 PM
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12. The 1992 tax increases
fueled the economy of 1990's and also the demise of
Democratic control of Congress. There was nothing
cyclical about it and a balanced budget and surplus
followed. This current situation with reduced income
and increased deficits was hand-made by Bush and the
Republican control of Congress. The effect of this
past 5 years is just now taking effect. Once real
estate and construction start taking their lumps due to increased inflation and interest rates. It will not be
a pretty picture. It was proved that supply side economics did not work in 1982 anymore that it will
work in 2002. The only thing cyclical about that is
the stupidity of operating this nation on excessive debt.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:32 AM
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5. The thing that gets me about that particular stance is ...
that when a Republican is in office and the try to talk about how good the economy is (because it rarely ever REALLY is) they want to credit the Republican president. But, if it's a Dem, well then it's just "cyclical". They do that with everything. It's their MO. Not exactly a spin-free community. ;)
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:47 PM
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9. They only say that because Reagan REALLY rode Carter's coattails.
By the end of the 1970's the economy was a mess because of vietnam and the oil embargo. Usually either unemployment is high OR inflation is high. This is called the Phillip's curve. But in the late 1970's, we had BOTH high unemployment AND inflation. This was a huge problem. Paul Volcker, the Fed. Chairman at the time, figured we needed strong medicine to get the Phillip's curve back to normal. He sharply raised interest rates which eventually solved the inflation crisis, but caused a recession in the short term. Carter went along and let him do what he needed to do, even during his campaign for re-election. Then Reagan strolls in and get the credit for improving the economy. I learned this at IU, in my freshman macro-economics class and it STILL pisses me off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_curve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volker
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