BANGOR DAILY NEWS ONLINE TABOR POLL. PLEASE HELP!

[RBInMaine]

Please go to bangordailynews.com and vote in the online TABOR poll in the top right corner of the front page.
Right now pro-TABOR is ahead 2-1. I know these are not scientific polls, but any little bit helps. THANKS!!

[RBInMaine]

1. Correction, it's at www.bangornews.com

The online poll is at www.bangornews.com

Thanks. Please help!

[qnr]

2. Looks like it is getting worse, but there are only 352 replies

Do you support or oppose the Taxpayer Bill of Rights?
Support 248: (70.45%)
Oppose 104: (29.55%)

Total Replies : 352

[luckyleftyme2]

3. COULDN'T GET IN

Itried several times -would not bring it up.
so here is a NO NO NO

[fight4my3sons]

4. Done- still needs a lot of help!

Support
323
(70.68%)
Oppose
134
(29.32%)

Total Replies : 457

[GambitMG]

5. wow

holy god, is it getting that much support? Wow...

[MaineProgressive]

6. TABOR poll update

It's now down to 64% support / 36% oppose, but it does suggest that it's going to be a very close race. Obviously these online polls are about as reliable as... well... telephone push polls. :)

I really think people have had enough of both parties in the legislature failing to work together to get anything done. It looks like a message is going to be sent: being #1 in taxes is not good for our state regardless of whether you're a Democrat or Republican.

[jpak]

7. If this was a TABOR vote - it would not pass

You would need +66% for it to fly.

TABOR sucks ass...

[GambitMG]

8. oh?

Is that what you need? 2/3???

[jpak]

12. Yes!!!

It will take a 2/3 majority to send it to a second vote...

2/3 = 66%

[MaineProgressive]

9. 2/3?

Wouldn't you need a simple majority of voters but 2/3 of the legislative body to send it out?

[jpak]

11. Didn't you know this????

It will take a 2/3 majority at a town hall meeting to send any spending item above TABOR restrictions to a second vote to approve the new spending.

1/3 of the people at that meeting could stop any new spending for public schools, fire protection, road repair, police protection...etc.

You will ALWAYS get a 33% malcontent vote to shut down ANY new spending proposal under TABOR.

It's the Tyranny of the Minority... and the end of Democracy as we know it.

Progressive my ass...

on edit:

Furthermore...

TABOR is unconstitutional at the state level - there are no legally enforceable limits on state spending under TABOR. The State of Maine can ignore it.

That means all the really bad effects of TABOR fall on the cities and towns.

TABOR will result in chaos, acrimony, privation and will require towns to spend money on elections that they would not have to conduct if weren't for TABOR.

Only the ignorant and NON-progressive support this Grover Norquist travesty.

[MaineProgressive]

15. 2/3 is hard to get?

Towns who draft anti-TABOR resolutions seem to have no problem getting 2/3 votes. Always a 33% malcontent vote?

[RBInMaine]

10. "Progressives" shouldn't let Mary Adams Win!

"Progressives" shouldn't let ultra-right-wingers like Mary Adams and Grover Norquist win in Maine. It seems too many people are allowing emotion to give in to reason and real progressive principal. TABOR is a national right-wing import.
In real dollars and in most tax rate areas we are in the middle or nearer the bottom. It is only in mean taxes as percentage of income that we are high nationally, and that is because incomes are low here (and always have been). TABOR will do nothing to make the tax/budgeting changes we really need, it will squash local control of municipal budgeting, and it will hurt people. But I say that if it does pass, leave it alone and let it wreak the havoc that it brought to Colorado. And when Mainers have to pay for their own trash pick-up, when they have to shell out hundreds for their kids to play sports, when local officials are bound to rigid TABOR budgeting rules, when local officials will have to pay thousands to do local referendums to pass budgets, when our already-suffering roads continue to fall apart and can't be fixed, when college tuition skyrockets...then Mainers who voted for TABOR won't be able to bitch for a second, and just maybe they'll regret what they volunteered for and will think twice just like Colorado finally did.

[MaineProgressive]

13. Then we agree

Great, then we agree. Let TABOR pass and we'll see what happens.

Why are you worried, anyway? You don't think it will pass.

[RBInMaine]

14. Momentum is toward NO, and we do not really "agree".

The gap on the TABOR question is most definitely closing, so I'm not really sure what will happen. I think there is a good chance to defeat TABOR, but sure, it's all a big question right now. At the very least I think it's going to be close. But I don't think we entirely "agree" at all. You seem willing to vote for TABOR because you are frustrated with your taxes and you don't see other alternatives on the ballot. While I agree more needs to be done on taxes even though we do have homestead, circuit breaker, and LD1, (all of which need some more time for full implementation) I am unwilling to support TABOR because I think objectively that it is a very flawed plan and would never do anything to perpetuate the very dangerous agenda of ultra-right-wingers the likes of Howie Rich, Grover Norquist, or Mary Adams. These people are right-wing-extremist liars whose mission in life is the consolidation of wealth and power into the hands of the few at the expense of the many, and the dismantling of public programs and services again at the expense of the many. My argument is that any real progressive would outright reject TABOR and the agenda of its leaders to its very foundations on principle. You seem to be dismissing your progressive principles out of frustration with your taxes. I am only therefore saying that if it were to pass, then sure, allow people to feel its pain just as it is written so then perhaps they'll think long and hard before embracing something like this again. So no, we don't "agree" because I am voting against it, don't want it to pass in the first place, and believe that there ARE steps in effect right now on taxes and that there ARE real alternatives that CAN and WILL be implemented even if they aren't in the form of a competing ballot measure right now.