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thefriendlytipster
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Sun Apr-24-05 10:43 AM Original message |
Twins Get Stadium |
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Godai Kyoko
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Sun Apr-24-05 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. I hate these stadium deals |
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oldtime dfl_er
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Sun Apr-24-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. it's baseball |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Not true... |
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Spike from MN
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Thu May-05-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Camden Yards: annual benefit: $3 mil; annual cost: $14 mil. |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Sun Apr-24-05 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. GGRrrrrr! |
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dissent1977
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Fri May-06-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
91. Right on |
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dflprincess
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Sun Apr-24-05 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh great - an open air stadium |
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Karthun
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Sun Apr-24-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. ya.. |
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dflprincess
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Sun Apr-24-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. As I said, |
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Sorwen
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Mon Apr-25-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. a roof could be built later |
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dissent1977
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Fri May-06-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
90. And you know they will be back asking for more money for a roof |
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CatholicEdHead
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Sun Apr-24-05 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. There was also a Vikings stadium pressure story |
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loveable liberal
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Sun Apr-24-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. where can we help them pack? |
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Lindacooks
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Wed Apr-27-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Me 2. |
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Sorwen
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Mon Apr-25-05 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think this is a great plan |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon Apr-25-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The point is, our "public servants" want to tax us |
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Sorwen
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Mon Apr-25-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. no, the point isn't that it would benefit Pohlad |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon Apr-25-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So should every form of entertainment get a sales tax subsidy? |
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Krupskaya
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Mon Apr-25-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Is it the subsidy you're mad about? |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon Apr-25-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. It's the messed up sense of priorities |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. As does just about every large business... |
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Sorwen
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Mon Apr-25-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. not if it isn't needed |
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Lindacooks
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Wed Apr-27-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. The point is there seems to be limited money for the things |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. A shortsighted view in my opinion... |
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Love Bug
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Wed Apr-27-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I live in Minneapolis and pay $.07 tax because of the convention center |
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SaveElmer
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Wed Apr-27-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. How successful? |
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Sorwen
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Wed Apr-27-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. one other thing |
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jean
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Wed May-04-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Pohlad has family who will survive him and there's no guarantee the |
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Sorwen
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Thu May-05-05 09:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Yes, it IS a guarantee |
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jean
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Thu May-05-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Does the proposal include language requiring the 30-yr lease? |
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Sorwen
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Thu May-05-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Yes, there is a 30-year lease |
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jean
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Thu May-05-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. no plans for roof sounds like no plans for A/C at the Metrodome... |
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Krupskaya
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Mon Apr-25-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. If one wonders why unions don't always jump up and cheer for democrats... |
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dflprincess
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Do we know they'll hire union workers to build the place? |
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Krupskaya
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Tue Apr-26-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. I can't see how they wouldn't. |
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jean
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Wed May-04-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. are the Twins doing the hiring of labor or the state, which has been |
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eyepaddle
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Thu May-05-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I've been out of construction for a while |
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jean
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Thu May-05-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. interesting union tidbit on AAR Minnesota today - there are now more |
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dpbrown
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Thu May-05-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. So just because Hennepin Co. taxpayers would be paying unions? |
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Krupskaya
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Thu May-05-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Obviously, that was not my point. |
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dpbrown
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Thu May-05-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. The danger in trying to be too cryptic is in becoming misunderstood |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Apr-25-05 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. Looks like a good solution |
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thefriendlytipster
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Mon Apr-25-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. A good editorial |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Apr-26-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Of course the Twins benefit |
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SmileyBoy
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Mon Apr-25-05 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. If you have a $200 purchase at IKEA in Bloomington... |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Apr-26-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No, what frosts me above all |
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Sorwen
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Tue Apr-26-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Here's the thing |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Apr-26-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Three cents per twenty dollars is not a significant amount of money |
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Sorwen
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Tue Apr-26-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Actually |
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Krupskaya
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Tue Apr-26-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. What you said. |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Apr-26-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Well said... |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Apr-26-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. The idea is to stimulate growth |
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Spike from MN
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Mon May-02-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. |
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Sorwen
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Mon May-02-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I would be more than happy to pay for it with a user's tax |
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Spike from MN
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Tue May-03-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Ah, but parks, zoos and libraries are completely different. |
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Sorwen
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Tue May-03-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Not much different |
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Spike from MN
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Thu May-05-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
58. No, it's a LOT different. |
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Sorwen
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Thu May-05-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Pohlad would pay for cost overruns |
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Spike from MN
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Thu May-05-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Looks like Turner Field in Atlanta was paid for entirely by private |
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Sorwen
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Thu May-05-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Who cares why Pohlad wants the stadium? |
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Spike from MN
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Fri May-06-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. I care, since he's using public money for it. |
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Sorwen
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Fri May-06-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. So you would rather |
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Spike from MN
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Fri May-06-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. If it's not OK for him to fund something he will lose money on, why |
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Sorwen
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Fri May-06-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I think we've covered all the bases here |
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Spike from MN
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Mon May-09-05 08:29 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Yes, I saw those LTTEs. |
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Sorwen
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Mon May-09-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. taxation without representation? |
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Spike from MN
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Mon May-09-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Well, since they aren't representing the will of the people |
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Sorwen
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Mon May-09-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. That's not what "taxation without representation" means. |
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Spike from MN
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Tue May-10-05 07:29 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. What else do you call it when they ignore the will of the people |
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SaveElmer
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Tue May-03-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Just saw your post and will reply with links on the other side soon... |
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DemonFighterLives
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Tue Apr-26-05 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm all for a stadium , but a roof is needed |
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Lindacooks
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Wed Apr-27-05 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. I'm furious about this, and will be making my opinion very clear |
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SaveElmer
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Fri Apr-29-05 04:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. A new stadium will help with all those things |
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Lindacooks
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Mon May-09-05 03:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
93. That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. |
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katinmn
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Mon May-09-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Yes, Lindacooks. Priorities first. Not a dime for stadiums until |
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USA_1
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Tue May-03-05 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
47. NO NEW STADIUMS!!! |
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SaveElmer
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Wed May-04-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. No can do |
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katinmn
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Wed May-04-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. why not a puny barely noticeable tax increase for healthcare and |
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Sorwen
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Wed May-04-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. yes, let's do that too |
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SaveElmer
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Wed May-04-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I have no problem with that...but |
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katinmn
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Wed May-04-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. sorry -- it's still corporate welfare |
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SaveElmer
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Wed May-04-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Strictly speaking not welfare as... |
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Spike from MN
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Thu May-05-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. They financed the Guthrie "without a whisper of protest"?? Hardly. |
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SaveElmer
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Thu May-05-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. I overstated it...it was in comparison to the Stadium debate |
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Spike from MN
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Mon May-09-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. It won't go to referendum because the people would vote it down. |
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Sorwen
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Mon May-09-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. You can't measure the true benefits! |
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Spike from MN
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Mon May-09-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Is this the argument that the pro-stadium lobby is using? |
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Sorwen
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Mon May-09-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Yes, of course it's the argument |
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Spike from MN
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Tue May-10-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. No, that's NOT the argument the Twins are using. |
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Sorwen
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Tue May-10-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. okay |
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Spike from MN
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Wed May-11-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Alright |
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Sorwen
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Mon May-09-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. regarding corporate welfare |
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eyepaddle
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Wed May-04-05 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. An issue that asn't really ever been discussed is |
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eyepaddle
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Thu May-05-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
61. Well, not to sound too blatantly cynical |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Thu May-05-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I just don't see how building a stadium is going to help the other |
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eyepaddle
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Thu May-05-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It likely won't help directly, the point |
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Sorwen
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Thu May-05-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. excellent post (n/t) |
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SmileyBoy
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Thu May-05-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. I really like your arguments, eyepaddle. I hope to hear more from you. |
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MsAnthropy
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Thu May-05-05 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
72. God how long have we had to hear about stadiums? |
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dpbrown
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Thu May-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
75. AAR said $10 per ticket would cover the new stadium |
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eyepaddle
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Thu May-05-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I've got a great idea |
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dpbrown
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Thu May-05-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. I don't think that logically follows, but I get your point |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Thu May-05-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Nobody will die if the stadium isn't built |
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eyepaddle
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Thu May-05-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I am 100 percent in favor of spending more |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Thu May-05-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. As I said, it's not stuff for MYSELF, but for others |
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eyepaddle
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Thu May-05-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. No single item makes up quality of life |
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Sat May-07-05 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
92. What! |
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