NY-SEN: I want Hillary to lose the primary.

[iconoclastNYC]

Anybody with me?

[rpannier]

1. I certainly wouldn't shed a tear

nt

[sabbat hunter]

2. why?

she has done a good job as senator for the state of ny.

[mdmc]

3. better than Al Damoto

I guess

[job777]

7. Bad job for upstate

I disagree, she has not done a good job for us in upstate ny.

[Oleladylib]

22. Me too...Upstate's only problem is Pataki and some of the

legislature and we'll take care of that come November

[Bombtrack]

4. who's her strongest dem challenger? I'll support them

Hillary is mediocre in every way.

[Cornus]

6. Jonathan Tasini

http://www.tasinifornewyork.org/

I like his positions a lot more than Hillary's.

[ThomCat]

5. If someone better runs, in a heartbeat.

I'd love to have someone run against her who is not owned by big Corporate America,
Who doesn't pander to the conservatives on military and globalization issues,
Who can credibly claim to be a populist and mean it.

Clinton is better than the republican options we've had, but that's not saying much. I'll vote for her if there is no better choice. But it's a shame if she's the best choice.

[BrklynLiberal]

8. I am voting for Tasini.

[GodlessBiker]

13. He sounds like a very good guy and he got some positive press today.

[RCinBrooklyn]

9. I'm no fan. She can go to the Senate, but the White House? Hell no!!

[nedbal]

10. Clinton is better than the republicans

[iconoclastNYC]

11. I demand more from Democrats

Then just being better than a Republican.

[nedbal]

12. Expect a lot of disappointments in your life if you're...

not willing to compromise and give up the things exactly the way you want them...

sure go for someone more progressive than HC ... like those in Fla went for Nader instead of Gore, well they got what they deserved **

[Terran1212]

16. And Tasini of the Democratic primary is better than them all

I say replace the Republican lite Hilary with him in the Primary.

[countmyvote4real]

24. Back acha.

Please do expect to be disappointed when NY voting is overhauled like it's been done in FL, OH, GA, NM (to name a few) since the 2000 fiasco. In that and every election the Greens or any third, fourth, fifth party has every right to vote their conscience. Your fingers should be pointed at the SCOTUS and the FL SOS that intervened with partisan agendas in the 2000 election.

In the meantime, I'm voting Tasini in the Democratic primary. He's my Lamont (only he doesn't have the money to self start his campaign.)

[Cornus]

25. Me too

Still don't understand why progressive groups like DFA and MoveOn are not supporting Tasini.

He'll be getting my vote too.

[iconoclastNYC]

17. We have other choice. It's no necc. either or.

Might as well support Bush because he's better than Hilter.

[Terran1212]

18. hahaha great example

Not quite sure where the hilary loyalism comes from.

[Duchess1958]

14. NY Times Article on Tasini & Commentary by Duchess

The New York Times story
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/26/nyregion/26challenger.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
  about Jonathan today describes his "balding head,"
calls him a "pesky agitator" and a vehicle "for
liberals who are disenchanted" with our opponent. But, we
particularly like this quote from Jonathan: "I am
convinced that the majority of Democratic primary voters agree
with me. And if this race were not about name recognition,
celebrity and her $25 million in campaign contributions, I
would win." Because that's what this race has been about
from the beginning … voting for the principles and ideas that
people actually believe in.

Jonathan has always believed that if Democratic primary voters
in New York were given a choice between Candidate A (opposed
to the war; for single-payer healthcare; for fair trade, not
so-called "free trade"; opposed to the death
penalty; for the right to unionize and against abusive
corporate power like Wal-Mart) versus Candidate B (supports
the war; opposed to single-payer healthcare; supports the
death penalty; says NAFTA was a good thing; sat on the board
of Wal-Mart for six years; and has Rupert Murdoch as a
fundraising patron), Candidate A would win the election.

So, it's up to you to encourage people to support and vote for
what they believe in, to vote for and support real Democratic,
progressive principles, NOT celebrity, triangulation and
poll-based positions. Enjoy the article and pass it around.
And, of course, help us make sure our effort to get Jonathan
on the ballot and the on-going campaign is a rousing success!
This is our progressive New York: please give today by
clicking here. Then please send the article link and this
request to your mailing list and ask that they give a $100
minimum donation. Thank you for all you do for our campaign!

[DUCHESS NOTE: When out ballot petitioning for Tasini on
Saturday, several folk I spoke with have such a disgust for
Hillary “ms republican lite” Clinton. Some who’ve signed my
petition said they didn’t vote for her the first time and will
not do so this time around. Hillary doesn’t represent a good
portion of New Yorkers nor issues dear to them. Its time for a
change and one that is progressive. If you see volunteers out
and about petitioning for Tasini AND you’re a registered
Democrat in the state of NY, please sign their petitions.
(Recently Progressive Democrats of America have endorsed
Tasini.) True democracy is ALL about choices. We need choices
on the NY state primary ballot this September 12th. Remember
that date & do the right thing, vote for change and true
democracy.]

[newyawker99]

15. Hi Duchess1958!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[readmoreoften]

20. Could this be why the NYT says he's a pesky agitator?

"He was the lead plaintiff in Tasini vs. The New York Times, the landmark electronic rights case that took on the corporate media’s assault on the rights of thousands of freelance authors. In a historic decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June 2001 that media companies had illegally used the works of writers without their permission. The decision led to a series of class action lawsuits (in which Jonathan served as a principal strategist and negotiator) which resulted in a mass settlement for authors and the creation of an $18 million compensation fund."

--heh heh

[readmoreoften]

19. I am voting for Tasini and encouraging everyone I know to do the same.

He's a really good, regular kind of guy and he *really* believes what he says he believes in. I've been on strike since Nov. 9th and Tasini walked our picket line with us... without campaigning. He's just a member of our union, so he'd show up to walk the grueling loop every now and again. He went to jail for our union cause, and now he and I and 50 other people are facing up to 15 days in jail for civil disobedience.

I just know Jonathan Tasini because he's on the ground fighting with me. He never politicized our struggle for his own benefit in any way. Labor struggles and social justice is just his every day life. He doesn't strike me as a "politician" at all.

He's got a great background for a NY Senator: his mother fled the Nazis and his father is from Palestine.


He is anti-war. He is for gay marriage. Pro-choice. Pro-labor. And he's a New Yorker.

[Oleladylib]

21. Not with you on this one...

It'll be Hillary...nobody else "name recognized" ..Now get Robert Kennedy Jr. to run and she'll be a has been..it just isn't going to happen any other way.

[AlGore-08.com]

23. I think the problem is one of funding - - Tasini is at 13%

Which is where Lamont was back in February. If Lamont did not have his personal fortune to sink into that race, would he have ever gotten much above that?

Tasini's latest post on the HuffPost complains that he can't get into the NY1 candidate debate on August 22nd because, although he meets their criteria for polling high enough, he hasn't raised and/or spent enough money on his campaign:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-tasini/how-big-media-censors-pol_b_26432.html

I'm curious as to why Tasini doesn't receive more "coverage" in the blogosphere - - and why there are never any Tasini threads on DU, even though there are always a lot of anti-Hillary threads.