We don't get DRE's! Just got this email...

[TreasonousBastard]

where Bo Lipari says the state has approved two scanners, but no DREs for the 2009 replacement of the lever machines:



Subject: Breaking News - NY rejects DREs! WE DID IT


Congratulations to us all!

Special thanks to our Election Reform advocates
who have worked tirelessly on this for the last 4 years
to insure that in New York State
every vote will count and be counted!


Just Released From Bo Lipari of New Yorkers For Verified Voting...

I'm pleased to announce that after five years of hard work on the part of voting integrity advocates, New York State has rejected DREs and approved
only the Automark and the Sequoia ImageCast scanner/marker for use in 2008 polling places. This momentous decision by the State Board of Elections
virtually guarantees that New York State will vote on paper ballots and ballot scanners when it finally replaces lever machines in 2009.

Those of you who were with us at the beginning five years ago know what an enormous victory this is. When I first started traveling, presenting and
advocating in New York, election officials, political parties, and the media assumed that New York State was going to be a DRE State. Precinct scanners
were not under discussion, and only DREs were offered by vendors. Our experience over these five years reflects the truth of Gandhi's statement -
indeed we were ignored, then laughed at, then fought bitterly by the voting machine vendors and their supporters in the election establishment. But
finally, truth has prevailed, and what seemed like an impossible dream in 2003 has been made real by our hard work - New York State will be a paper
ballot state.

Just yesterday, it seemed like high powered lobbyists had scuttled our hopes once again as they maneuvered to keep DREs in the mix even though they were
in clear violation of New York's laws(see my blog entry describing yesterday's events at http://nyvv.org/blog/2008/01/breakdown-at-board.html).
But this morning, when the Board reconvened, it was immediately obvious from the commissioners opening statements that those who were pushing for the DREs had conceded defeat. No small amount of thanks is due to Commissioner Doug Kellner (D), who firmly held the line yesterday and during a long night of backroom political maneuvering, vowing he would never approve the DRE submissions which did not fulfill the requirements of New York State
election law regarding accessible voting machines.

While technically it is possible for a DRE vendor to submit and win approval for the 2009 lever machine replacement, this is highly unlikely as at least
half of the HAVA funds will be spent on scanner compatible ballot markers. Since all the approved systems are components of a precinct based scanner
system the least expensive path, and the only sensible one is for the counties to complete their HAVA implementation with paper ballots and
scanners. We've learned to never be complacent, but this time we have reason to be confident that the scanner compatible choices of today will inevitably
lead to paper ballots for all New York voters tomorrow.

My deepest thanks to everyone who fought this long, difficult battle. This is only round 1, and I promise you we will have much, much more to do to
guarantee that our elections belong to the public, and are transparent and observable. But for today, let's break out the champagne, relax, and
celebrate this great victory. What was once only a slogan representing what we were fighting for, has now become a reality - Paper Ballots for New York!

Congratulations friends. Together we have changed the course of New York States election history, and 12 million registered voters in the Empire State will vote on paper ballots, not DREs.

-Bo Lipari



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[Fredda Weinberg]

1. What battle? I've been following this closely ... we've never had

an easier issue. This notice is crap and I know Lipari personally.

[TreasonousBastard]

2. OK, so call him and ask what...

the big deal is. I'm just passing the message along.

Last I heard, about a week ago, a few counties might have thought of ordering DREs to comply with the handicapped provisions-- that's what rang alarm bells around here.

[Fredda Weinberg]

3. I'm not attacking you but your sense of alarm doesn't make sense to me

Keeping a DRE on hand for handicapped use makes perfect sense ... give them the ability to cast anonymous votes and in hearing after hearing, their representatives expressed their preferences.

As for Lipari, again, I've got nothing against him personally, but if you've been following the issue you know our legislature insisted on a voter verified paper trail from the beginning.

[TreasonousBastard]

4. Well, there was some concern that...

if you had to buy a DRE that will get little use, might as well buy all DREs. County budgets are tight, and here on LI there was a real fear that at least one of the counties might do just that.

Between the legislature and the state BoE, once again there seems to be some question of who's the dog and who's the tail.

[Fredda Weinberg]

5. Did you catch the assembly hearings? There was no opposition

and I don't see how a county could defy state law.

Again, I'm not picking a fight with you ... but for years, this has not been an issue for our state. As for the disabled, I hope we can agree that they should be allowed to pick their own methodology.