MYTH: Hillary Was In Favor Of Invading Iraq

[Danzo]

She voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq IF NECESSARY. However she EXPLICITLY said back in 2002 that she wanted to go to war only as a LAST RESORT:

I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.”

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html

[peace13]

1. You need to go out to youtube and watch her stump speeches

at the run up to the war. She did not miss one Rthug talking point. That was what put me off of Hillary. She sold the war and you can see it with your own eyes if you want to. Good try though. Peace, Kim

[Danzo]

2. Exactly What Time Period?

Do you consider to be "the run up to the war?"

[peace13]

4. Here is one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

Her entire speech is there as well.

[Danzo]

7. I'm Underwhelmed

If the president hadn't mislead her and the rest of Congress on WMDs, she might not have voted for the war. Barack HIMSELF has admitted that since he WAS NOT in the Senate at the time of the vote he's "not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don't know."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-jim-mcgovern/senator-obamas-curious-c_b_72577.html

[Danzo]

3. Let Me Ask You THIS

The speech that I sited was from Oct. 10th, 2002. Do you believe THAT qualifies as "the run up to the war?"

[peace13]

5. The publicized bombing began in March 2003.

Yes, I would qualify October 2002 as the run up. Day one, 911 the * folk began talking about Iraq. The threats and fear mongering grew from there. You know, a person will believe what they want to believe and ignore the facts. George Bush Sr. wrote a book after Desert Storm supporting his position on Iraq and the problems that an invasion of Baghdad would create. This book detailed why he did not go into Baghdad citing specifically the Civil War that would follow. This war was everything and more. I don't want to argue. Many people seem fine with the war and Hillary and her position. I am not for war, I realize that Obama is not perfect on Iraq but Hillary and Obama were party to the selection process here that excluded the Dem candidates that were strong on peace and negation. We have two left and I fell that Hillary is not the better choice. Peace, Kim

[Kukesa]

6. Seems like "run up" time to me, too. n/t

[Kolesar]

8. Old Bush should never have restored the monarchy/dictatorship of Kuwait

Which he would not have had to do had not his underling, April Glaspie, make a remark that it would OK for Saddam to overrun Kuwait.

[weezy2736]

9. FACT: Hillary voted to give Bush the right to invade Iraq.

It's not a rhetorical question of her intentions, it's the idea behind the thing. Why would you vote for a potential invasion? You vote for the invasion. Saying that you are considering to invade just muddles up the diplomacy. I guess that means that you'd prefer war.

"I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.” - You're a Senator, vote on the legislation at hand and use your brain. If you have to invade, vote to invade. If you're thinking of invading, don't authorize the 'potential use of force in the future' publicly. Voting for the resolution is bad diplomacy any way you want to cut it. If Barack had voted for it, I wouldn't vote for him, but luckily he hadn't been nationally corrupted yet.

[Danzo]

10. Yep

Hard to be "nationally corrupted" when you're not even IN the national Senate at the time.

[weezy2736]

11. Yeah

That's what I was implying... why is that a bad thing?