Question for Kurita supporters

[FreedomAngel82]

I'm still thinking about next year and while at the moment am thinking of voting for Ford there is one reason why I'm doing so and that is to get justice for all Bush has done. I listened to Kurita when she was on "The Round Table" back in June and she was asked about the DSM and investigating it. She said it wouldn't be worth anytime and would "make our troops look bad" and hardly ever touched upon it. I know Ford signed Conyers petition in the very beginning. I was wondering: do you know how Kurita would vote if it came to impeachment or investigations of Iraq and the whole ordeal? I've Emailed them but haven't got any reply whatsoever so I thought I would try here. Thanks.

[guruoo]

1. DSM is like kryptonite to victory...

Any candidate that pushes it now would be
placing themselves at substantial risk
of losing the rural-moderate-crossover vote.

That's why neither Ford nor Kurita will touch it.

Kurita, being a state Senator, was not allowed
the opportunity to sign the Conyers petition.

[FreedomAngel82]

3. If that's true

then why did Ford sign Conyers petition? It can be used against him. I may not be a huge Ford fan but that was a great risk and the right thing to do.

[guruoo]

4. Perhaps it could, but the petition wasn't signed in

the middle of an election campaign.
It's old news, not campaign rhetoric.

[FreedomAngel82]

5. How is it old news?

And are you saying she would only sign a petition because of an election campaign and not because she believed in it? Signing this petition showed me that Ford is serious about Bush's lies for war. Kurita said on the "Round Table" she didn't think the DSM should be investigated cause it would "make our troops look bad". So does she care more about image then the truth?

[guruoo]

6. Let's be fair

Ford signed the petition, but you don't hear him
highlighting DSM in his campaign rhetoric, do you?
So does this mean he was being insincere when he signed it?

'You can't govern if you don't win'

[FreedomAngel82]

7. So what is Kurita going to do about it?

If the vote came up about it what will she do? I want justice for all the lies and murders he's done and 2006 is our last chance. I know Ford is at least supportive of getting justice. THOUSANDS HAVE DIED!!! Do you not get that? Will Kurita impeach George W Bush if the vote came up or will she be like Liberman and Biden and vote with the republicans?

[guruoo]

8. My primary focus is on...

assuring that we keep the very right to
seek justice on the lies that led us to war..
Every day that the Republicans
are in control takes us one step closer to
losing this right.

Therefore, I'll wait to worry about the exacting justice part once
we have the majority back.

BTW: Ford's already been voting like a Leiberman
on domestic issues.
See: tax cuts, bankrupcy bill, emanate domain, NAFTA, etc...
And, he was for CAFTA before he finally voted against it.

[Jackson4Gore]

9. Wrong

Ford has voted against everyone of Bush's tax cuts. He has said the Supreme Court case regarding eminent domain went too far and wants to put a limit on that. He wasn't even in office when NAFTA was passed. He never supported CAFTA and voted against it.

[guruoo]

10. According to the story you posted in DU....

'In relation to the matter, he (Ford) said that he had always voted for every free-trade agreement since being elected because he feels that the open market is better for consumers.'
Of course, you did go on to say that you believed he wouldn't support CAFTA, and to his credit, Ford did eventually join with progressives to vote against it.

Here's the deal on KELO (eminent domain):
Ford co-sponsored HR 701, the Conservation and Reinvestment Act. The LPPV dubbed HR 701 the "Condemnation and Relocation Act," because the legislation would hand out over $1 billion per year for a "massive, unprecedented land acquisition" by government, "with no restrictions on federal and state agents' power to condemn private property for nearly any reason."

"I've always believed individual rights are a big thing...but I find value in the court's decision. As long as people are compensated fairly, I can appreciate the decision. Certain areas in our state are crying for development. If this decision helps -- it's a positive."
-Harold Ford, Teddy Bart's Rountable

(In the end, once again, to his credit, he finally sucummed to progressive pressure and voted against CAFTA)

And on support of NAFTA:
In case you missed it: Fast track would give the President the authority to negotiate NAFTA-like trade agreements with other countries and ram them through Congress in an up or down vote, with virtually no debate.
<snip>
Tennessee Rep. Harold Ford, a new recruit to the anti-labor "New Democrat Coalition," came out for fast track near the end of the battle by claiming that it was good for the transportation workers in his Memphis district.

[Jackson4Gore]

11. Again

You are not giving him credit for his real record. You say in regard to CAFTA, he finally voted against it due to pressure from liberals. That is not correct.

Here is what the Congressman said in regards to CAFTA: http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/2005/07/congressman-harold-ford-jr-stands-up.html

He voted against it because he felt it was the right thing to do. And you can see via his press release on CAFTA, he states he wasn't in Congress, but probably would have voted for it. Nevertheless, he didn't vote for it or CAFTA.

Also, you act as if he is no friend to labor, but that is not true. Look at his labor ratings. They are great. Heck, the AFL-CIO even recently endorsed him and his campaign: http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/2005/08/harold-ford-jr-recieves-afl-cio.html

Now, in regards to the KELO decesion. I believe you have bought into the Republican spin and lies about Ford's position on property owner's rights. His quote from the radio interview was taken out of context. Soon there after he went lenghts to set the record straight.

Read his real stance on eminent domain: http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/2005/07/property-owners-rights-top-priority.html

Those are the facts.

[guruoo]

12. I do give him credit for finally coming around...

as I indicated. However, I can't understand why
that union would be so quick to endorse him.
One of these days there will be no election for them to
hold over his head.

[guruoo]

13. Republicans kill DSM resolution in committee

Thursday, September 15, 2005
House Republicans Protect Bush On Iraq Lies
California Representative Barbara Lee's House resolution calling for full disclosure of communications between the Bush administration and Great Britain leading up to the Iraq war, died in committee yesterday.

Outnumbered by Republicans on the House International Relations Committee, Democrats could not get the votes to move H.R. 375 forward, falling one vote short, 22-21. It was a straight party-line vote, with the notable exception of Republican Jim Leach of Iowa, who voted with the Democrats.

<snip>

More than 130 members of Congress have written to President Bush and 575,000 people signed petitions this summer demanding that the White House answer questions raised by the Downing Street Memos.

Republicans sought to further undermine U.S. security in favor of protecting the Bush administration by killing two other measures introduced by Democrats. The GOP voted 23-22 against a resolution similar to Lee's, introduced by Representative Maurice Hinchey of New York and killed a resolution by New Jersey Congressman Rush Holt that would have required the State Department to give Congress all documents on the illegal disclosure of the identity and CIA employment of Valerie Plame.

And the band played on...

http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/09/house-republicans-protect-bush-on-iraq.html

[tnlefty]

2. Come meet her and ask her yourself. From my experience, she

is more than willing to talk with people about issues, etc.

IBEW Bldg., Volunteer Drive (off Bonny Oakes Dr.) Tues. Sept. 13th, 6:00 p.m.