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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:04 AM
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Virginians Vow to Push Back Arizona-like Policy
Virginians Vow to Push Back Arizona-like Policy

Community Groups Stand with Del. David Englin to Uphold Democratic Rule of Law.



(Alexandria, VA) - In the wake of protests against Arizona SB1070, a diverse group of elected officials, lawyers and community organizations declare their opposition to Attorney General Cuccinelli’s legal opinion and similar legislation that propose to expand the duties and authority of local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws at a press conference on Wednesday August 4, 2010 at 9 a.m.



Who: David Englin, Virginia State Delegate (D-45th)

Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, Victor M. Glasberg & Associates

Jon Liss, Executive Director Tenants and Workers United

Tram Nguyen, Associate Director Virginia New Majority

Sarahi Uribe, Regional Organizer National Day Laborer Organizing Network

When: Wednesday August 4, 2010

Time: 9:00 a.m.

Where: Tenants and Workers United

3801 Mount Vernon Avenue

Alexandria VA 22305
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:44 AM
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1. Virginia legal opinion supports checks of immigration status
RICHMOND -- Virginia joined the national debate over immigration Monday when Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II issued a legal opinion that authorizes law enforcement to check the immigration status of anyone stopped by police officers for any reason.

Previously, law enforcement officers in Virginia were required to investigate the legal status only of those who were arrested and jailed.

Cuccinelli's opinion is less stringent than the portion of an Arizona law that was stopped by a federal court last week. Under that law, Arizona authorities were required to question people who they have a "reasonable suspicion" are illegal immigrants.

"Our opinion basically said that Virginia law enforcement has the authority to make such inquiries so long as they don't extend the duration of a stop by any significant degree,'' Cuccinelli (R) said at a news conference Monday. "That's consistent with Supreme Court authority."

The attorney general issued the opinion in response to a request from Del. Robert G. Marshall (R-Prince William), who sought clarification on whether local police, conservation officers and zoning officials could inquire about legal status.

Marshall said he chose to seek the legal opinion because he feared that the Senate, under Democratic control, would not approve legislation permitting law enforcement officers to inquire about legal status during routine stops. Bills seeking similar powers were killed in the Senate in recent years.

Marshall wrote to Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R) on Monday asking him to codify Cuccinelli's opinion through executive order. He said he thinks that Virginia can avoid legal trouble by allowing but not mandating the checks by police.

McDonnell spokesman Tucker Martin said the governor will review the opinion, saying it built upon an opinion he issued as attorney general in 2007. "That opinion detailed how local and state law enforcement officials can work in cooperation with federal authorities to ensure the criminal immigration laws of this nation are upheld and enforced," Martin said in a statement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/02/AR2010080205229_pf.html

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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:48 AM
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2. Arlington PD Not Planning on Changing Immigration Policy After Cuccinelli Opinion
The Arlington County Police Department does not plan on changing its hands-off immigration policies after Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli ruled that law enforcement can ask about the immigration status of anyone they stop or arrest.

Cuccinelli’s legal opinion also allows police to arrest individuals suspected of committing criminal violations of immigration laws (such as illegally crossing the border).

Currently, ACPD will not ask about citizenship status unless such information is relevant to solving a crime.

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"The police department does not plan to change policies at this point,” said police spokesperson Det. Crystal Nosal. “Citizens living or traveling through Arlington should not be worried that our actions will be changing.”

Nosal said the department wants witnesses and victims of crime to feel safe coming to the police, “regardless of immigration status.”

http://www.arlnow.com/2010/08/02/arlington-pd-not-planning-on-changing-immigration-policy-after-cuccinelli-opinion/
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:53 AM
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3. McDonnell wants troopers deputized to check stopped drivers' immigration status
RICHMOND -- Virginia Gov. Robert F. McDonnell said Tuesday that he has spent months trying to reach an agreement with the federal government to train and deputize state troopers to act as immigration and customs agents to make legal status checks and refer individuals for deportation.

McDonnell (R), a former state attorney general who has helped several localities, including Prince William County, enter into similar agreements, said he expects to make an announcement soon.

"We're working on that," he told reporters at a news conference outside the state Capitol on Tuesday.

McDonnell's comments came a day after Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II issued an opinion that authorizes police to ask anyone stopped for any reason about his or her immigration status.

The governor said that he agreed with Cuccinelli's opinion, which is similar to an opinion he issued in 2007, but that he lacked the legal authority to force local police to act.

"I think local law enforcement officials have had the authority for a number of years,'' McDonnell told reporters. "We believe our state and local officers have the ability to make those inquiries . . . and turn them over for the appropriate proceedings."

Del. Robert G. Marshall (R-Prince William), who requested Cuccinelli's legal opinion and subsequently wrote to McDonnell to codify the language in the opinion, said he hopes the ruling will give local governments the assurance that they are on "firm constitutional ground" if they choose to request that their law enforcement departments inquire about immigration more frequently.

"They could make this a priority," he said. "This is a determination that elected officials have to make."

A 2008 Virginia law requires that jail officials check the immigration status of everyone who has been arrested and taken into custody. Cuccinelli's opinion does not require police to act, but it allows officers to check the status of those who are arrested, whether or not they are jailed, and to inquire about the immigration status of everyone who is stopped, including those pulled over for a traffic violation or at a police checkpoint.


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As public attention focused on Cuccinelli's opinion Tuesday, it remained unclear whether the legal advisory would result in any practical change.

Dana G. Schrad, executive director of the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police, said Cuccinelli's opinion offered advice, not a mandate. Local policies sometimes limit when police should ask about immigration. Some departments advise their officers to avoid asking about immigration during criminal investigations, which might discourage victims or witnesses from cooperating.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/03/AR2010080306726_pf.html
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:56 AM
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4. Is Virginia the Next Arizona? State Lawmakers Fuel Immigration Debate
A handful of Virginia lawmakers may be positioning their state to be the next battleground in the immigration debate.

Virginia, one of nearly 20 states toying with the idea of an Arizona-style immigration law, hurtled onto the national radar screen this week after Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli ruled that police can ask people about their immigration status during routine stops.

While a northern Virginia county has been at the forefront of the push for stricter local immigration laws for three years, none of this activity has prompted the kind of nationwide backlash -- in the form of boycotts and a federal government lawsuit -- that Arizona triggered with its law in April. Those behind the Virginia proposals, including a proposed statewide law, are hoping their state can avoid the kind of public relations and legal pitfalls that have, at least temporarily, ensnared Arizona.

"This is good policy. ... It's both constitutional and prudent," said Robert Marshall, the Republican state delegate who originally requested the ruling from Cuccinelli, who is also a Republican. "Our actions here can't be dismissed."

Marshall told FoxNews.com he has asked Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell to issue an executive order codifying what Cuccinelli wrote. He expressed doubt that any single piece of legislation will pass through the state Senate, but he suggested a carefully worded directive could help shape the national debate.

He said Arizona went astray by requiring law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status. Cuccinelli describes Virginia's policy as discretionary.

"Unlike Arizona, you wouldn't say every time you stop somebody, do this," Marshall said. "I think that was one of the reasons the Arizona law was (blocked)." Marshall said he's confident Virginia's policy would be held up in court if challenged.

Cuccinelli also cited that difference as a key distinction between the two laws.

"The difference, of course, is that the Arizona law enforcement officer is going to be under the cloud of the requirement of that statute," he said. "But the way we operate it here, we're in good shape."

A spokesman for Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said the governor is reviewing her state's law to see if it can be refined in light of the court decision blocking key parts of it, but was not sure whether she was considering the possibility of making immigration checks discretionary as opposed to mandatory.

Though Cuccinelli's ruling drew widespread attention, it's unclear how much direct impact it will have on Virginia law enforcement.

Virginia Senate Majority Leader Richard Saslaw, a Democrat, said most police forces won't change their policies in light of the opinion.

"Is it going to affect a single thing? The answer is no," he said. "A majority of the police forces won't bother with it."

Saslaw noted that per Cuccinelli's opinion, state officers are still advised against arresting anyone for a civil immigration offense. Saslaw said he doesn't see Virginia, a non-border state, becoming a focal point of the immigration debate any time soon, and he rejected the idea that McDonnell could issue an order codifying Cuccinelli's ruling.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/03/virginia-arizona-state-lawmakers-fuel-immigration-debate/
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:51 AM
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5. Some important points
1. Virginia is NOT Arizona – Virginia does not have a law that requires police to ask about immigration status if the officer has a reasonable suspicion that the individual is undocumented.

2. The law in Virginia has not changed.

3. Three things have happened recently:

a. Republican Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has issued an opinion that Virginia law enforcement officials have the authority to ask questions about immigration status during a lawful stop/detention of an individual, as long as it doesn’t prolong the detention. This is not a change in the law, it is just the Attorney General of Virginia giving his interpretation of Virginia law. The law itself has not changed.

b. Republican Governor Bob McDonnell has stated that he would like to see Virginia State Police enter into a 287(g) agreement with the Department of Homeland Security, so State Police could receive training to be able to enforce federal immigration law. There is still no agreement that we know of.

c. The Republican Chair of the Prince William County Board of Supervisors, Corey Stewart, would like the General Assembly in January to pass the “Virginia Rule of Law Act,” a bill that – if it were to become law – would be as bad as Arizona’s law. If it is introduced as a bill this winter, it will likely be stopped by the Democratic majority in the Virginia State Senate.

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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:06 PM
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6. ACLU Advises Virginia Law Enforcement to Ignore Cuccinelli on Immigration Questioning
Press Release

August 5, 2010

ACLU Advises Virginia Law Enforcement to Ignore Cuccinelli on Immigration Questioning

Richmond, VA--The ACLU of Virginia yesterday sent a letter to Virginia police chiefs and sheriffs telling them not to follow a recent opinion from Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli on investigating immigration status, because the opinion is legally faulty and would lead to adverse public safety consequences.

Cuccinelli's July 30 opinion states that Virginia law enforcement officials have the authority to question individuals about their immigration status during a stop or arrest to the same extent as Arizona law enforcement under a recently passed law.

Yesterday's letter from ACLU of Virginia legal director Rebecca Glenberg notes that Cuccinelli's opinion cites no Virginia law for the proposition that Virginia police have the authority to inquire about an individual's immigration status. He simply asserts that such authority exists.

Moreover, Cuccinelli ignores the recent judgment of a federal district court in Arizona that blocked that state's statute requiring police to inquire about immigration status.

The letter also warns that law enforcement inquiries into immigration status are likely to lead to racial profiling and mistrust of police in immigrant communities, resulting in less cooperation from crime victims and witnesses.

"It is rather astonishing that the Attorney General would encourage Virginia law enforcement officials to engage in practices that have just been enjoined by a federal court," said ACLU of Virginia executive director Kent Willis. "As the court in Arizona made clear only last week, immigration enforcement is a federal function, not a state or local one."

A copy of the ACLU letter sent to Virginia police chiefs and sheriffs can be found online at http://acluva.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/08-04-10.pdf.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:51 PM
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7. thanks for these updates
i'm not in the state forum as much as i used to be...
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