Already enough signatures to recall Kapanke

[AllyCat]

At my union meeting today, the co-organizer of his recall effort said they already have enough sigs to file. Planning to get one more weekend of sigs done to be sure there are enough for the inevitable throwouts and then time to file!

[dragonlady]

1. One fear I have about the recalls

I have read that some campaigns are letting people download the petitions. What would stop the Republicans from doing this and preparing any number of bogus petitions that they could later challenge and prove to be false? (That is, sign names of people they know, then bring those people in to testify they never signed and the signatures are forged.) The Darling recall is not allowing downloads, probably for this very reason. I hope the organizers of these efforts are being very careful.

[lutefisk]

2. That's a real concern. I hope the numbers are high enough to take into account the possibility

And as far as what would stop the Republicans from doing this?

Absolutely nothing, least of all a conscience or sense of right and wrong.

[AllyCat]

3. Not sure about that, but I know that is not what is happening where we have been working

(Olsen's district). We have to get certain ones from a committee leader. It's all pretty official. I hope this isn't happening other places.

[toddwv]

4. The petitions are submitted and the collector signs and validates each page.

A fake signature does not invalidate the entire page, it just invalidates that signature.

So if someone brought in a page of fake signatures, it would become apparent that the fake signatures are relegated to the submitted petition pages of a particular collector.

At least as far as I know having read over the requirements.

[dragonlady]

5. That's true, a good point

My concern was more about thinking enough signatures have been collected, while the total is diluted with many bad ones. That could be a problem.

[AllyCat]

6. We are collecting thousands extra in each district to allot for this

[Viking12]

8. AFAIK, the collectors have to sign petitions

In doing so, they swear that the information is collected in good faith. If false petitions were being circulated and submitted, the collector could be held criminally liable.

[sybylla]

9. Sig collectors have to sign the petition and certify the sigs are valid

I would hope that organizers are checking ID's of anyone they don't know who is turning in paperwork.

Signing that petition fraudulently, certifying that you collected the signatures, would be a felony.

Would the pukes stoop that low? Possibly.

On the other hand, I know a ton of people who went to La Crosse to help. It would take as many pukes to fuck it up and I doubt they could sustain such an effort.

[dragonlady]

10. Good idea to check IDs

They would probably try to breeze in, drop off the petitions, and leave. Any unknown petitions could be spot checked just to be sure. Wouldn't it be great to catch them in a felony?
They are not above this kind of thing, and as they realize the recalls are actually going to happen, they will get desperate. One always has to be on guard against their tricks (here they once called in requesting signs for certain people, who turned out to be rabid Republicans).

[TheEuclideanOne]

15. "Would the pukes stoop that low? Possibly." - ROFLO

From I have seen, they seek out new lows to stoop too.

[Scuba]

7. We're being careful, and getting many, many more....

...signatures than are required.

These guys are toast, as long as we stay energized. Don't let complacency set in! Keep up the good work.

[goddess40]

11. Who is going to run against him in the recall election

I hope in each recall situation we have a good candidate ready to run - actually they should be getting out there, unofficially or not, and getting their name and face known!

[murielm99]

13. I have been wondering about that, too.

Maybe some of their prior opponents would like a chance at a rerun. The recalled person can be on the ballot. Watch out for it, Wisconsin.

[sybylla]

16. I've heard a couple of names bandied about

Tara Johnson, who ran against him last time.

Rep. Jennifer Schilling

There may be one or two others contemplating it as well.

[goddess40]

17. I forgot not everyone got shit on by their dem canidate

like we did in the Wausau area. We have not seen nor heard from Decker since he crapped all over public workers as a parting shot in the senate.

Of course it makes sense to run the candidate that ran against them in Nov. if the race was at all close.

[murielm99]

12. I have circulated election petitions many times

as a precinct committeeman. Sometimes the candidate snail mails them to me, sometimes I download them. I have to gather the signatures personally, and sign each page. As long as this is done legally, it does not matter how the petition is obtained. It matters how the signatures are obtained.

I know you guys are aware of the pitfalls and are anticipating them. Solidarity!

[midnight]

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