Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sat Aug-02-08 09:47 PM
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The Great Hunger by Woodham Smith |
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The Great Hunger: Ireland: 1845-1849 (Paperback)
Published in 1962
If you have never read this book - you must! It is the story of the Irish Potato Famine that killed untold thousands (millions?) It really lays bare horrendous British indifference and incompetence in responding to the crisis.
An enduring classic.
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Sat Aug-02-08 09:57 PM
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in 1989, after a trip to Ireland.
I no longer recall many details, but do remember that I was impressed and horrified at how terrible the Famine was.
The population of Ireland was cut in half due to the Famine. Half of those died, the other half emigrated, mostly to America. And marriage and childbearing habits changed almost overnight, to later marriages and fewer children. As a consequence, the population of Ireland remained stable for nearly 150 years, and has only recently increased. These days, Ireland is a relatively prosperous nation, and I understand immigrants from all across the EU go there.
When we were there in 1989, as I understood it, the schools had emigration counselors, who'd advice students what country they'd be best off moving to, depending on what sort of work they planned to do.
The song "The Flight of Earls" is about that time.
The Flight of Earls lyrics:
I can hear the bells of Dublin In this lonely waiting room And the paper boys are singing in the rain Not too long before They take us to the airport And the noise to get on board a transatlantic plane
We've got nothing left to stay for We have no more left to say And there isn't any work for us to do So farewell you boys and girls Another bloody flight of Earls Our best asset is our best export too
It's not murder, fear or famine that makes us leave this time We're not going to join McAlpine's fusiliers We've got brains and we've got vision We've got education too But we just can't throw away these precious years
So we walk the streets of London And the streets of Baltimore And we meet at night in several Boston bars We're the leaders of the future But we're far away from home And we dream of you beneath the Irish stars
As we look on Ellis Island And the Lady in the Bay And Manhattan turns to face another Sunday We just wonder what your doing For to bring us all back home As we look forward to another Monday
Because it's not the work that scares us We don't mind an honest job And we know things will get better once again So a thousand times adieu We've got Bono and U2 And all we're missing is the Guinness and the rain
So switch off our new computers Cause the writing's on the wall We're leaving as our fathers did before Take a look at Dublin airport Or the boat that leaves Northwall There'll be no youth unemployment anymore
Because we're over here in Queensland And in parts of New South Wales We're on the seas and airways and the trains And if we see better days Those big airplanes go both ways And we'll all be coming home to you again
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Smarmie Doofus
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Sat Aug-02-08 11:23 PM
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2. The talk around here is that people are returning..... |
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Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 11:24 PM by PaulHo
>>>>When we were there in 1989, as I understood it, the schools had emigration counselors, who'd advice students what country they'd be best off moving to, depending on what sort of work they planned to do.>>>>
... these days , more or less permanently. Economy and all.
Though there's still a pretty big Irish-born community on the northern ouskirts of NYC.
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Sun Aug-03-08 05:10 AM
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3. According to this week's New Scientist |
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The potato blight his most of Europe, it's just that Ireland was more dependent upon potatoes than other countries in Europe.
Far worse is that the blight is making a comeback in Europe. Apparently the blight exists in two genders and only one of those genders made it to Europe in the 19th century. When it reproduces asexually the spores survive for a shorter time in the soil than when it reproduces sexually. It's also able to evolve faster when it reproduces sexually. Now both genders are in Europe.
Worse still, the entire world is becoming more dependent upon potatoes because they can be dual-cropped with grain and so boost the amount of food that can be produced per acre.
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