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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-26-07 05:11 PM Original message |
Duluth nun, raised as an atheist, blogs about life and faith |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-26-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. She should come around DU sometime. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-26-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Much like anything with kids, |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-27-07 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. "(Atheism) was the religion in our house" |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Don't you know that atheism is a belief system just like any religion? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Just smile |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I guess I don't |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Without theists |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Heaven forbid someone speak metaphorically. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Well, it had a creed, too |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. I understand why people may object to her phrasing |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Perhaps, however, she knows more about her own parents than you |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'm assuming that she means that her parents were the type of |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-28-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I won't claim to know what she meant: she could have meant any number of things, |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Re-li-gion |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Religions love the existence of atheists |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I don't love the existence of atheists |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. My experience with fundamentalist Christians has always been |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. I've encounted plenty of both |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Oh, so you've never actually had atheists show up at your door |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You're right. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Funny. I don't have anyone on mine. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Gotta say, varkam |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I think this is sort of my release |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
95. And I'm glad you're on our side!... |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. You can also choose whether or not to open your door. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Yes, and that's so very analogous to choosing to come to a message board |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. But is it possible (for the average person) |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
85. Is this truly a problem? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. When people consider atheists refusing to hide in a closet |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Okay... I accept that. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-04-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Thank you |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. One cannot, and I mean CANNOT force you to go to a message board |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. No, but I've been on many threads |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. ..... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. I'm reminded of the thread in which I posted a link to stories from atheists |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. One of the exact things I was thinking of |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
86. And that, too, is true... |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I have yet to be witnessed by an atheist |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. Do you think that all believers are Christians? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I disagree |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And I still disagree. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. It is more than a philosophical position to some. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. So you're saying that for some it's a religion and for some it's not? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Exactly. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Because weak atheism is not a belief. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. You use equivocal words like "can" or "some" |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Not equivocal but accurate words. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And the definition of cats doesn't have to apply to all cats? |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. But the definition is not one for atheism |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. It is problematic because |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. But there is much acknowledgement |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I have to disagree |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. What he said. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. How do you know only theists describe atheism as a religion? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Well around here they tend to. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. I suppose you can |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. The usefulness of a dictionary depends on the particular dictionary: with the better |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. I saw a report on the twins (they are teenagers now). |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I never claimed she didn't know her parents |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. In my experience, people's self-described views sometimes tell us very little |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I think she meant by this |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yes, see my post #8 |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Yep, I agree with you |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Insults come from both sides, I suspect. Even from people like you who don't see it. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Actually |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Good rant |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Thanks, ayeshahaqqiqa |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Sorry for the spelling problems! |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I use copy and paste... |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. Hah! Good idea Mr. Wiggles, |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. But thats the bigger point. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Your statement: |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
78. Thank you. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. And a lady. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. GAH! I'm sorry! My mistake. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Absolutely no problem! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. I respectfully disagree |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Materialism as in the reverence for worldly things... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
72. How is materialism a threat to the world? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Oh, so the graph thread here on RT |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. GODDAMIT!!!!! |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. A consequence of atheism |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. We are seriously stuck at a dead end |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. You and Mr. Wiggles |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. But thats not true.....I've seen enough anti-science ramblings on the side of |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. The graph is counterproductive |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I never said it WAS, toddaa. |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Wait, what are you arguing about? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. This is the conversation I was having: |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. Toddaa |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
96. I really can't imagine why you call the OP "taunting." The story is about a woman ... |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I read it |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Yawn. That might be one of the most intellectually dishonest claims I've seen. |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Honestly, I don't know what your motives are in posting the article |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Well, let us carefully unpack the headline: |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-01-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Exactly, Lydia |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
70. It is interesting to note exactly what discussion the OP generated: |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Dude, don't act all innocent. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. You must like that territory, since you so often return there |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. What are you talking about? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
75. Hey, an e-nun! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-02-07 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
94. "Dad's creed was that no intelligent person believes in God."... |
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