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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:23 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do Atheists Feel Persecuted Against by Organized Religion? |
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Dissent Is Patriotic (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. I feel castigated but not necessarily persecuted...n/t |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Atheist Discrimination |
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afdip (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. how can you feel persecuted by something you don't believe in?? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. um people are persecuted by other people... not by what they believe in |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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LiberalVoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Are you saying im a fool because im a non believer? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Not all non believers are not fools |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. I can personally guarantee, |
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LiberalVoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. So you mean if a slave doesn't believe in slavery.... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. The question was not "do you feel persecuted by some mythological deity"? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
95. I'll take this... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks for these polls |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
94. Hi, Fellow Mystic! |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. Me Personally? Not At All |
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LiberalVoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. Ofcourse we do. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. name calling is not persecution. n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Tell that to a black man. |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. It is because of religion I find it hard to 'believe' nt |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. i don't |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. really? |
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PerpetualWinter (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
86. They never came out and directly said it... |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. No....I don't believe in playing the victim game. n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. Relentlessly hunted. nt |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Like the Jews in Germany? Really? n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. When did bemildred mention the Jews? |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Just a matter of perspective, depends on whose ox is being gored I suppose |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Not sure why you'd feel intimidated, but... |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Oh, not by the thread, by the fundies. I like it here. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I don't consider myself a "victim" either but |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:12 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. There is no religious test... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Think again: |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Have I been asleep for 53 years???!!!! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Heh. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Thanks, |
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wtbymark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. is it really relevant what I believe or don't believe? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. persecuted, abused and under attack by creationism in particular |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. religion |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. I don't know.... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm not an atheist, but have been fired form 3 jobs for being a Buddhist.. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Who the hell dislikes Buddhists??? |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. I voted "yes" although I have only felt that way the past 5 years. |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't feel persecuted for being an Atheist although I do feel..... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
24. Only when the organized religion is trying to run the government. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. Really? |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Oh |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I just want a kind of real world measure. |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well, just so long as |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. So the slaves in the US weren't persecuted by your model? |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Wasn't trying to create an exhaustive list... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. I'll speak for myself. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
91. How's THIS for perspective, from my own "neck of the woods" |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Turn on just about any broadcast channel on a Sunday morning. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. But is that persecution? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. There are degrees of persecution |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. Bigotry is bigotry, and persecution comes in many forms. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
30. I don't see an "other" choice. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. And Obvious Favoritism And Deference Given To Theists. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Almost everywhere we go. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yes...Like Becoming Valueless... Being Told To Shut-Up Or Tread-Lightly... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I hate when people try to say we claim persecution. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Look Around... And You'll See Who Actually Gets Coddled. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I don't feel persecuted etiher but I feel looked down upon |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yep. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. LOL... Same Here. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. I feel threatened |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I can certainly agree with that. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. The teacher 4 doors down from me |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. did anyone correct her? n/t |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. I feel persecuted when I'm not allowed to have an opinion about their |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Welcome to Amerikkka, the newest theocracy. |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I don't have a problem with them criticizing athiesm or even prosletyzing |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Take it from an uppity atheist, |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Yeah. I know. I try not to be disrespectful, but I'm usually honest |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Unfortunately, |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I'm not even sure I'm an athiest, mostly I don't think it matters WHAT I |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Heh. I felt the same way. |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
76. I suggest you check out the Brights website- |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:06 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Sorry, but I have checked it out and I hate the name "Bright". |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. kewel |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. That was a key point of Roger Williams, and... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. Nope - by some of its followers. |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. I feel persecuted by organized religion and I am a christian |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. So what are we going to do about this? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Um, |
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really annoyed (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
67. I feel great |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
73. I know I shouldn't, but I do... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
74. Persecuted? No, but... |
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EmmaP (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Running for Political Office |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes...and that is discrimination. |
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EmmaP (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You said... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Read again.... |
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EmmaP (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Definitions of Persecute |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
75. Persecuted may be a bit strong, oppressed perhaps. |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
92. Not so much persecuted as offended |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
93. I feel harassed and have for many years. It started in grade school |
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