how do you use the words jesus christ ?

[roman7]

do you consider them holy or do you spit them out ? i noticed myself spitting the words out every time i got angry or wanted to ridicule someone or something. i had been doing it for years and it dawned on me that if those words arent important then why was i useing them ? in a moment of personal reflection i realised that i was damming myself as rejecting the darling of god . everytime i spit those words out it made an impression and it was ugly. the words are important and i pray i remember to use them in a holy manner for the rest of my time.

[Taverner]

1. Well, considering how unlikely it is the synoptic gospels actually CONTAIN what Yeshua said...

In fact, no one knows if Yeshua bin Yusuf existed or not...

But if he did, the synoptic gospels did not have his words in it...

[Thats my opinion]

22. if you just take a look at the scholarly evidence

you will see that many of the words attributed to Jesus were classed as authentic, while many others were clouded in the oral tradition which followed him. You statement is a bit over the top. Elsewhere last week I posted materials from two first century chaps Tacitus and Josephus. Take a look.


www.WestarInstitute.org

[Taverner]

24. check out the Jesus Seminar

They judge the authenticity on several levels

[Extend a Hand]

2. Everytime I hear "Jesus Christ" and "dammit" I think of this Bill Cosby skit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfywAHyJ8yg

[handmade34]

3. ...

:rofl:

[handmade34]

4. well...

I think Jesus gets it.... not so much a problem using his name but maybe the negativity you feel inside he would worry about... Jesus was pretty cool that way!

[pscot]

5. Seldom

[Speck Tater]

6. Only when I hit my finger with a hammer, and then with "H. F-----ing" sandwiched in the middle. nt

[laconicsax]

7. As blasphemy.

It's the victimlessest crime.

[rrneck]

8. You mean like

great jumped up Jesus H. Christ in a sidecar?

[DesertFlower]

9. i tend to yell out Jesus F------ christ.

i'm an atheist so i don't worry about it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. Well dammit

I was going to say the same thing.

[TygrBright]

10. I think it's purely a matter of your own desires and perceptions to shape yourself...

...into the kind of person you believe Christ wants you to be. If you feel that not hollering "jesus christ" in anger or outrage is a useful spiritual discipline, by all means work on avoiding that.

If you feel using the name reverently is a useful spiritual discipline, by all means, do so.

The deepest, most fundamental spiritual struggle for me as a Christian was to realize that all matters of spiritual discipline-- what, why, when, how, etc., were solely between me and That of God, based on MY understanding and MY reading of what Christ demands of me. And that MY understanding, MY reading, and MY determinations of what is important for me as a Christian apply ONLY TO ME, and that I cannot judge others, demand of others, or expect of others, who profess Christ, based on MY understanding.

This is still a discipline I work on every day. But I neither expect it of others, nor have any judgement of whether it would be a good thing for others.

Words are important. But how I discipline myself to use them is likely to be very different from how others professing Christ will discipline themselves to use them.

contemplatively,
Bright

[Beartracks]

11. You remind me of a Jesuit professor I once had.

And that's a compliment, by the way. :hi: Very insightful post.

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[roman7]

12. best answer ive got yet

i read the bible because i was tired of depending on others views & i prayed often and reverently that god would help me to understand what he wanted me to understand . the main thing i came away with was that god suffers to achieve .

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. God doesn't suffer.

If god could suffer, he wouldn't be god.

He is an anthropomorphic construct to explain human suffering.

[roman7]

16. i like the idea of a god who suffers with us and for us

with achievement as a goal

[RaleighNCDUer]

27. So your god is a masochist?

A omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful creator of the entire univers which has a hundred billion stars for each person who is or ever has been alive on earth is going to 'suffer with us'?

And just why would he do that?

Either he is a very small god with a good PR department, or you are extraordinarily narcissistic.

One or the other of you is delusional.

[TygrBright]

15. Thank you. I am going to think about that. There is beauty in the concept.

And I choose to believe that all beauty is a fragmentary glimpse of the Divine.

appreciatively,
Bright

[darkstar3]

17. Seldom, but usually right before the words "monkey balls."

[Abin Sur]

18. I don't consider them holy, nor do I spit them out.

Not surprising, though, given that I never use profanity or religious interjections in conversation.

(and yes, my friends consider this one of my...odder quirks)

[dmallind]

19. Why does this remind me of Yahoo answers after middle school quitting time.....

[saras]

20. Like everything else of consequence, it depends. Sometimes you use a cell phone as a hammer.

For some odd reason, I have a bunch of nice liberal (or radical) Christians in my personal community and no fundies. So I find myself seriously talking about the person/myth fairly regularly, and I have no need or desire to offend these people. For them to give up their sense of the spiritual is about as attractive to them as acquiring some sort of major disability - blindness, autism, deafness, Alzheimers - would be to most people.

On the other hand, there's people I encounter on a rare basis who use "Jesus" in such an offensive way that I will respond "fuck Jesus with a chainsaw" just to shut them up.

It's a word. The meaning depends on the context, and the interpretation of the listeners. In this society, it's a word that has some really different meanings for different people. Personally, my brain has a whole folder under "Jesus" and I rarely if ever open all the documents at once, so to speak. In fact, I think my machine would crash if I tried.

And I never have a problem singing along with either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQXQKflJNA">Oh Happy Day or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oPZApOa_iU">Jesus Gave Me Water.

[MineralMan]

21. Very rarely. In fact, I can't remember the last time I paired

those two words.

[deacon_sephiroth]

23. creatively... n/t

[Iggo]

25. Like Graham Chapman in Monty Python And The Holy Grail.

JEE-zus CHRIST!!!

[Deep13]

26. Words have no intrinsic meanings.

They are merely signifiers for concepts. And yeah, I use it as an interjection and I mean it to sound a bit harsh.

[LeftyMom]

28. Generally I wrap them around the words "tapdancing" or "tittyfucking"

Or Horace. I wasn't really sure what the H. stands for, and I figured Horace worked nicely. Or Horus if one's feeling ecumenical.

[darkstar3]

29. You owe me a laptop.

"Jesus tittyfucking Christ!"

:spray::rofl:

[backscatter712]

30. Points for creativity!

Jesus Zombie Christ!
Christ on a stick!
Delicious Zombie Jesus!

[TransitJohn]

31. As an interjection. eom

n/t