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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:12 AM Original message |
Poll question: Should Bud Selig Over-Rule Last's Night's Travesty? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, though it wont allow Detroit to relive the euphoria that happens after a Perfect Game |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. very true |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. True, and that sucks, but still it needs to be done...n/t |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. the rules are clear - the call stands |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. They won't be able to relive that aspect but they could still point to their pitcher |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. HOW DARE YOU! |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. I dared! |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
3. Poll: Should people who post contextless posts be catapulted into the sun? |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. NO |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Maybe. So it's still a tie. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. let's break the tie - YES |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. yes. n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. The blown call was a disgrace. And the Ump was gutless for not correcting himself DURING THE GAME. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. he did not realize he blew it until he saw the replay |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Then he should be fired. It wasn't a close call and his sole responsibility at that moment in time |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. ridiculous - blown calls are a part of the game - happens all the time |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Not with 2 out and a perfect game on the line...the guy was not paying attention... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. sure it is - the rules do not change based on situations - and the rules are clear |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Article II, Section 3 of the rules gives the commissioner the power to |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Sounds like the Deus Ex Gary Bettman clause in my beloved NHL... nt |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. he won't - he has to show confidence in his umps - even though an error was made |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. But you were saying the rules were clear...they're not...he has the authority... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. they are clear - the ruling of the umpire stands with no reviews - except for |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Nope, the rules give the commissioner the authority to over-rule...n/t |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. have you given even a cursory thought to the ramifications of an overruling? |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. OVERWHWELMING? Jesus h Christ...the next picth resulted in an out... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. no - but you want to rewrite history - did you read the post? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. "easiest thing in the world" . . . ha |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. The question is, why should he have confidence in them? |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. "act in the best interests of baseball..." based on his history |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. You're right...it is doubtful...highly doubtful he will do it, but he CAN...n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. What rule says an ump can't be fired for disgracing the MLB on headlines around the world? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. none - fire him. But the call stands. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Obviously they do happen with 2 outs and a perfect game on the line. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. If the first base ump isn't capable of making that call, he lacks basic competence |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. are you suggesting that a bus driver never makes an error? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I am suggesting there are fender benders, and there are fiery crashes |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. mistakes are made regardless of the situation - you don't establish rules |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Sometimes it helps to read what we've written aloud... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. so you obviously support a rule that says "an umpire's call stands - |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I think the onus is on the person claiming that a demonstrably erroneous call "must" stand |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. the principle that should be upheld is that the rules of the game, as written, should prevail |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. are balls and strikes defined differently based on the inning or for a right vs left hander? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. How can he "correct himself" if he thinks he's right? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Again, if his eye never left the bag and he made that call, it makes things WORSE, not better. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-04-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
84. What about the other Umps? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. He was on NPR this am saying he feels awful about making the bad call. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Groveling for sympathy |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-04-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. First, stop calling it an 'easy call' |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. NO |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Gee, I made it easy for you and you still got it wrong! |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. uh . . . think you made it easy for yourself |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
11. And you people complain |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
12. Unrec...only one poll option.. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
13. No, bad calls are part of the game. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Wrong... |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. ... |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
77. LOL...love that smiley! |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. Nope |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Wrong...try again...n/t |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. No need |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
20. No, the game will be more famous because of the bad call |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Who was the ump who invented instant replay? |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
30. It's baseball .... (yawn) |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. bingo. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
52. So why are you posting here? |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. LOL. I love when DUers claim that they are completely uninterested in some topic |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
40. It is a shame |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. No. Shit happens. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
50. Slippery slope |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
51. The poll is bs and the answer is clearly no |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. The answer is clearly yes...amazingly bad call, over-turning would not |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
53. There's no "I don't care" option. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
62. There was a precedent set in 1991 when 50 no-hitters were thrown out. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Good point...yup, Selig can do this...whether he WILL is questionable..n/t |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. not questionable at all . . . no way will he overturn the call |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. he might because if he doesn't, the pressure for instant replay grows... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. and introducing instant replay would be the best thing to come out of this |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
86. But that was more a change in the qualification than in the game |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
71. Welcome to the Sports Forum, joey! You should know there are a lot of fans |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. fans of the Cowpies? Naw, haven't seen one here yet... |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
75. Yes, absolutely nt |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
79. Maybe Selig could just declare that this game be added to any list of perfect games |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
81. resolved - no reversal |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
82. Absolutely not. |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. This just seems different from the outcome of a game to me... |
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