What are the chances of Bush getting his way with the judges?

[Jackie97]

I've been taking this Introduction to Law course, which of course says that a president most likely will get his way on this stuff when the majority party is his party.

My professor says that's probably also true in the case of wanting to put somebody in like Scalia (who is anti-choice) into the Supreme Court because it will be so many years before the Republicans are up for re-election and they can probably get away with doing it.

Do you all think that's true in this case? I keep thinking that if Republicans confirm a judge and he helps overturn Roe vs. Wade, then the Republican party is dead. What do you all think? I'm now worried that I was wrong to be so confident.

[sonicx]

1. I think Bush will get what he wants...

Judges have been blocked before, but the problem is no matter who Bush picks, they will most likely be a far right wacko. It's true that other recent repuke presidents have accidently put in stealth liberals or moderates, but I don't see that happening again (especially with the extreme fundie pressure Bush will get when a space is vacant).

I'm not sure how the Dems will handle it, but I'm not optimistic about keeping an anti-choicer out.

But keep in mind that right now, there are 3 firm Anti-Roe votes in the SC right now. Thomas, Rhenquist, and Scalia. Kennedy is Pro-Roer, but he's stradled the fence at one point (but I think he'll stay Pro). The other 5 are firm Pros.

Most think that Bush will get 1-3 new judges (:puke:). One goner will definitely be Rhenquist, so that's an Anti out and probably another Anti in.

Score is still 6-3.

There's a good chance O'Conner will leave. Fundies will go wild if it happens, and I'll bet alot of people's heads will explode here at DU.

5-4.

I'll stop there. Let's pray we don't reach 3. :)

I don't know what will happen to Republicans if Roe is kicked. Most polls say the public supports Roe (2 to 1 margin), but are people passionate enough about the issue to punish them for tossing it? I know for sure that the "Right to Life" people aren't going away. They still have to pressure individual states if they want abortion gone for good. And they will probably keep voting for Republican presidents in order to keep pro-choice judges out.

[Jackie97]

2. I'm thinking...

at first, self-righteous Americans would be glad it was outlawed or wouldn't care. These would either be younger people who don't remember or older people who forgot.

Once women started dying and got forced into having babies to give up, I can't help but think the Republican Party would be politically executed.

I swear to God, if America is this stupid, I'm not sure how sorry I'll feel for them if choice is outlawed. Seriously.

Any older pro-choicers here that remember what it was like to be raised in this anti-choice crap? I need your help now. You all somehow managed to have sympathy on an apathetic nation that wanted to suffer. I need your help now in getting some of that sympathy so I can fight this shit. I'm serious. My future sympathy for those who will suffer at the hands of Bush is down to almost zero at the moment because they wanted the anti-choice freak of nature. I'm sure I'll change my mind once it starts happening.