"I've never been pregnant, at least not for very long".....

[pnutchuck]

That's Gloria Steinem in an interview on Hard Talk BBC. She was asked how she felt about growing older as a woman. She was attempting to compared pregnancy with aging in that the body is well aware of what's happening, but the mind is far behind.

Bottom line, I love Gloria and I loved that quote, I've had a smile on my face with that overtly brash "yeah, I've had an abortion" statement. Oh, and she completely annihilated Bush right off the bat!

GO STEINEM :hippie:

[beam me up scottie]

1. Goody, wait for the backlash from the right!

They hate every single thing about Gloria and she gives it right back!
She's been fighting the war for too long, I wonder if she quit because she was burned out.

[pnutchuck]

2. She hasn't quit

She was on the campaign trail with Planned Parenthood working to defeat Bush in the last election. Also, she's in Europe working with an international equality organization, I believe she said the name was Equality Now. She's been trailing Bush across Europe to tell the world how horrible he really is. I love that woman! The whole time, the interviewer kept trying to direct Gloria's answers by asking rhetorical questions, and Gloria did the opposite every time.

edit: spelling

[beam me up scottie]

3. Oh, if only the men who are supposed to be defending our rights

would be so devoted. Every time I turn around I hear supposedly pro-choice politicians agreeing that women's access to so-called "late term abortions" should be restricted.
Go get 'em Gloria.

As an aside, what kind of dumbass reporter interviews Gloria Steinem and then tries to control her?

[pnutchuck]

4. Oh, she was young and pretty and I think took offense to Gloria's

view that looks are an important factor in the positions of women. The reporter tried to say that it was a good thing and offered some women more advantages they might not otherwise have had.

She also brought up the fact that 73% of the Republican party is actually pro choice! How ironic.....

[beam me up scottie]

5. Gad.

I hate women like that. They are more of a threat to their own sex than conservative men.

[pnutchuck]

6. Quite sad really that only one person approached this thread...

Maybe Steinem had a point when she said that the republicans have done a great job demonizing her and the feminist movement. She even mentioned the journalists who label feminists as feminazis. In fact, it seems the mere mention of her name shudders the person to conjure images of man-hating bull dikes.

[beam me up scottie]

7. I agree.

How pathetic are the women in this country that we allow the pukes and their minions to scare us into abandoning our fiercest protectors?
Because we're scared of their WORDS? They might call us FEMINISTS? Oh the horror!
I've got news for you ladies that think it's not your problem because you may never need an abortion, you better pray your daughter or granddaughter is never raped, because by then it will be too late.
When will we learn? The women who came before us risked EVERYTHING so that we could have control over our own bodies, so that we wouldn't be just incubators.
Way to thank your champions, isn't it?

(sorry for all the caps but I see red when I start thinking about this)

[pnutchuck]

8. And it's not just reproductive freedom

she also fought for equal pay in the workplace. She said when she was a child, she never thought about working side by side with a man, let alone being paid to do the same job. And now young girls have no idea what that might feel like; it's just common place that girls can grow up to be whatever they want. However, she said that allowing a women to even have her own identity after the sufferigist movement took about 100 years before equality in the work place came to the foreground. Women are just going to have stop listening to these right wingers who turn perfectly good adjectives, adverbs, verbs, and nouns into "labels."

[beam me up scottie]

9. She's right.

I can see how much things have changed just since I was in school.
Now we're going backwards. Harpies like ann coulter are allowed to go on tv and talk about taking away our right to vote and where's the outrage? Egad-even the prozac-taking soccermom rightwing zombies should be ambushing her in the parking lot and stabbing her eyes out with straws from their kids's mcdonalds happy meal drinks.
Don't you think?

This was posted in the choice & reproductive freedom forum, wasn't it?

[pnutchuck]

10. Yes, it was

I've never actually watched Ann Coulter. After seeing her name on DU and reading a couple of her statements on news sites, I just figure she's a waste of time. I just don't understand how people like that can even have a following.

I posted in CRF forum thinking that would be the best place to go for a real discussion on Gloria and her views. Guess I was wrong...

[beam me up scottie]

11. Sad...

I get so angry at election time when I see women-especially young women- that don't think it's important to vote. Their lack of hindsight as well as foresite is appalling. I really wish more schools would offer classes on women's history. I recall the subject was never even mentioned in my class. Actually, nevermind, considering the way the fundies control the schools now, women's rights would probably be portrayed in a negative light and no doubt used as an example in abstinence class of how uppity women caused the sexual revolution.

[kitkatrose]

12. Hey, this young lady voted--so did all her friends.

I probably would have disowned them if they hadn't. :) I wish history, other than white male history was taught in school. It's pathetic that I have to wait until I get to COLLEGE to take women's history, black history, etc. I mean, really, we're half the damn population, so why do I get to spend 15 min of one class talking about the suffrage movement, not even touching on women's involvement in all aspects of life.

[beam me up scottie]

13. You are a credit to your generation and a sign

that there is a future for women's rights.
:yourock:
Make no mistake - even though there are many new battles to be fought, we will always have to struggle just to keep the territory that was won by our sisters in the past.

[kitkatrose]

14. Thanks, people were up at six in the morning WAITING

in line to vote. Quite encouraging. :hi:

Oh, yes... the discussion on abortion being limited to the first four months is proof of that. :eyes: *cough*dumbasses*cough* :D My mama always said that I should have been a flower child and a bra-burner. I just wish my friends would realize that yes they are feminists instead of saying "I believe in such and such, but I'm not a feminist because I don't think men are evil." :eyes:

You guys rock too for getting the ball rolling. :yourock: I wouldn't have too many people to look up to if it wasn't for the assorted activists in the world. :)

I just wished I had learned more about this stuff earlier in my life, although I suppose at 20, I have plenty more years to become more involved.

[beam me up scottie]

15. sniff, I think I'm gonna cry!

:cry:
Thanks!
Seriously, at 20 you are much younger than I was when I got pissed off enough to speak up. You already see through the lies (ie: "we're only doing this to PROTECT women", followed by the ever present evil chuckle: "heh heh heh") :puke:
Don't let anyone discourage you, I finally figured out that I don't care if I'm labeled a "feminazi", at the end of the day, I like myself a lot more if I don't abandon my principles.
Your mom sounds cool! I was born too late to join the 60's-70's revolution but it did influence me as a kid. I keep telling my dad I would have been such a good hippie! My generation cared more about money and material things unfortunately. sigh...

[kitkatrose]

16. Thankfully, I learned that lesson early in life,

courtesy of being a smart introvert. And yes, my mom is cool. If I told her how much she meant to me, she look at me like I'd done something bad and was trying to wiggle out of punishment.

Unfortunately, I don't speak very often, I can't formulate my thoughts coherently to explain to someone on the spot, but I think when I return from break, I'm going to investigate being a clinic escort. I mean, if those anti-abortion twits can get up and make a person miserable, I can get up and help run interference.

[TheOriginalAmerican]

17. Good.

It's really nice to see somebody who can say that they've had an abortion and not show any shame.