The Phantom Procedure (PBA) *IS NOT* a Late Term Abortion.

[Eileen]

The Phantom Procedure which has been called a 'PBA' by the Anti Abortion Propaganda Industry (AAPI)
IS NOT a Late Term Abortion (LTA).

The Phantom Procedure which has been called a 'PBA' by the Anti Abortion Propaganda Industry (AAPI)
IS NOT a D&X Abortion (or ID&X).

The Phantom Procedure (PBA) is an undefined procedure and can be used to refer to almost any abortion performed after 12 weeks.

An easy explanation of the fraud is found in the discussion of bill S3, the so called "Partial Birth Abortion" Ban (which three courts have found unconstitutional) - on this page -.

Please read my - previous DU post -

As a further reference to the truth of these statements you could read - an excellent article - in Women's eNews.

Please do not permit this propaganda term to deceive you - and be especially vigilant when the Reich Wing Media, like the administration lapdogs they are - deliberately equivocate between "PBA" and "Late Term Abortion".

Since Bunnypants has stacked the court and wants them to look at the Phantom Procedure it is important to keep reminding people that the so called "PBA" is as phony as the Iraqi WMD - and has had about as much propaganda associated with it.

- Eileen`s always in process page -

Eileen

[yurbud]

1. Okay, I read your page and my head is spinning...

They want to ban a procedure that they won't name or after some part of a pregnancy that they won't specify?

You've got some good stuff on your page--I didn't know it was already illegal after viability in 40 states.

[Eileen]

2. Yes - you've got it right!

There is no reference to "late term" or in fact to any stage of pregnancy in the ban. Furthermore the description used is so broad that it could easily be claimed to describe any abortion although to use it to describe a vacuum aspiration abortion which is used in the first trimester would be a stretch (but that doesn't mean they wouldn't try).

While the State Supreme Courts that ruled this legislation unconstitutional found it so on the grounds that there is no "health of the woman" exception included in the legislation they could have just as easily, and as accurately, found it unconstitutional on the same grounds that Justice O'Connor found Steinberg v Carhart unconstitutional - which is:

Nebraska’s statute is unconstitutional on the alternative and independent ground that it imposes an undue burden on a woman’s right to choose to terminate her pregnancy before viability. Nebraska’s ban covers not just the dilation and extraction (D&X) procedure, but also the dilation and evacuation (D&E) procedure, “the most commonly used method for performing pre viability second trimester abortions.” ... By proscribing the most commonly used method for pre viability second trimester abortions, the statute creates a “substantial obstacle to a woman seeking an abortion,” and therefore imposes an undue burden on a woman’s right to terminate her pregnancy prior to viability."

Thank you for your comments on the information I provide. I've been attempting to provide the needed information on this fraud since the term "PBA" was first coined - shortly after Dr. Haskell presented his paper to peers describing his use of a variation on a very old and formerly used abortion method and which those in the AAPI saw as a great source of propaganda by just applying some newspeak to vaugely and emotionally describe it.

The major question facing the SC justices, from the perspective of a woman seeking to end her pregnancy, is whether the justices will deal solely with the "health exception" constitutionality or will also deal with the "undue burden" question the legislation also raises.

Eileen

[yurbud]

6. I remember the partial birth abortion bill from Clinton era and the

way it was described in the press at the time, including the stuff I heard from pro-choice people, made it seem pretty nasty and indefensible.

This business about nurses serving as abortion police does seem like it would make it less likely late procedures would be abused purely for convenience.

[Warpy]

3. Even in states where it's not illegal past viability

unless the fetus is deformed beyond salvageability, every attempt is made to deliver a live, premature fetus and keep it alive if the mother can't continue the pregnancy for any reason. Docs are all too aware that there may be a fundy nurse in the OR ready to alert one of the nutcase antiabortion lawyers out there if a live, viable fetus is delivered and allowed to die. Plus, if there is no compelling reason to allow a premature fetus to die, no doc wants to be a party to allowing it to die, it violates the oath.

Trust me, labor and delivery is where you'll find the largest proportion of fundy nurses, although not all of them are fundies, by any means.

This whole hullabaloo about abortions past the first trimester is disgusting, lots of ignorant people being whipped into a useless but dangerous frenzy by preachers looking for funding and trying to make names for themselves.

Those third trimester "abortions" of healthy fetuses are called premature childbirth.

[AndyTiedye]

4. Women Who Lose It and Drown Their Kids in the Bathtub Are So Often Fundies

Were they all hoping that an angel of the lord will show up and stop them at the last minute?

[yurbud]

5. like Abraham? watch movie FRAILTY sometime--takes that idea to

its logical conclusion.

[Nobody]

8. This is common all over the animal kingdom

If a mother animal (yes that does include humans) is overcrowded, stressed out, can't cope for whatever reason, she will kill her young.

[HockeyMom]

9. Runt of the litter

I can remember as a child visiting my uncle on a farm in Indiana where a mother cat ate the living runt of the litter. I was told as a little kid that this is done in the animal kingdom to insure the survival of the healthy siblings of the litter.

Gross, but maybe Mother Nature knows more than us? And these people worry about sending fertilized eggs down the toilet?

[musical_soul]

7. You create wonderful and informative work.

Thanks for taking all the time and effort for this. People are so misinformed.