The Supreme Court Once Again Considers "Partial-Birth Abortion"

[CaroleG]

This November, the U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear argument in Gonzales v. Carhart, a case that challenges the validity of the federal Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 (PABA). Among other potential problems, the statute lacks a health exception - the very gap that led the Supreme Court in 2000 to invalidate a similar statute passed in Nebraska.

Defenders of the PABA point to Congressional findings that a woman's health never requires the banned procedure - findings that many doctors dispute. More fundamentally, supporters of the PABA argue that the abortion procedures in question are morally equivalent to infanticide and should therefore fall outside the scope of women's reproductive rights.


http://writ.news.findlaw.com/colb/20061018.html

[flyingfysh]

1. "Congressional findings" determine medical fact?

Everyone in Congress must be a doctor. I didn't know that.

[RC]

2. Well golly, gee....

Look at how good Fisk is. Why he can diagnose a patients brain activity just by looking at a video.

[Control-Z]

3. No medical degree is required.

Any white male can determine medical facts.

Ask Bill O'Reilly. Remember he says that it "is never the case" that a "mother's life is in danger" during pregnancy because "you can always have a C-section and do those kinds of things."

[progressivegunowner]

4. about Bill

I wonder what Bill O Reilly would say if he got pregnant and his life were endangered? LMAO (imagining a pregnant Bill O Reilly is kind of funny and frightening at the same time)

[Nobody]

5. I would not want to be that fetus

Rush Limbaugh would be waiting to arrest me for first degree murder.

[Warpy]

10. I wonder what the asshole will say if he ever needs

any sort of abdominal surgery. It's MAJOR SURGERY, asshole, and demanding a woman already in precarious health go through it isn't only insane, it's cruel beyond belief.

[HockeyMom]

6. Dr. O'Reilly

I guess I should have gone to him instead of mine who didn't know about C-Sections on Fallopian Tubes.

[iamjoy]

11. Mother's Life Is ALWAYS In Danger

it's just a matter of how much.

Seriously. Pregnancy, even in a healthy woman, has risks. Those risks are far less significant today than they were 100 or even 50 years ago, but they are present.

The question is - how much risk? And who gets to decide when the risk is significant enough?

By the way, abortion is a medical procedure and thus, carries risk as well, but a friend who used to work in an abortion clinic told me that in the U.S. a woman was 6x more likely to die from childbirth than from an abortion. I wish I could find documentation of this statistic.

[Eileen]

7. To Considers "Partial-Birth Abortion".....

They MUST first define it - and that is not possible.

The Phantom Procedure which has been called a 'PBA' by theAnti Abortion Propaganda Industry (AAPI)
IS NOT a D&X Abortion (or ID&X).

The Phantom Procedure which has been called a 'PBA' by the Anti Abortion Propaganda Industry (AAPI)
IS NOT a Late Term Abortion (LTA).

If anybody is interested a little background information I have written.

- The Phantom Procedure -




They have to answer those questions on the first page.

- Eileen`s always in process page -


Eileen

[Quantess]

8. Hello. This is an off topic question about acronyms and anti-choicers.

It appears to me that anti-choicers like to use acronyms. Has anyone else has noticed this, or is it just my imagination?
For example, those protest signs saying "Abortion Kills Children" has always appeared to me as "AKC", which is the acronym for American Kennel Club.
And now, it turns out there are more acronyms. :think:
It's just a little odd, that's all.

[Eileen]

9. So right -

although acronyms are also common in many sciences where they reduce the amount of typing or speaking needed to transmit an idea.

Of course it was the AC penchant for non-scientifically based acronyms that prompted me to "create" the AAPI, which I am happy to see is used on a number of message boards, and which specifically refers to well funded groups whose sole function is to produce and disseminate anti-abortion misinformation and propaganda.


Eileen