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Modern School Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:02 PM
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Value-Subtracted: Ed Reform’s Privileged Private School Brats
The Value-Subtracted scores are in. The New York Times has published a list of the private schools attended by many of the most infamous Ed Deformers, proving that a private school education does not train you well for critiquing or improving the education system, though it does set you up for a powerful and lucrative career. In a temporary fit of lucidity, the Times acknowledged that there is “little difference between President Obama and former President George W. Bush when it comes to education policy.”

Here is an edited version of the Times’ list:

* NCLB was sponsored by senators Judd Gregg (Phillips Exeter, Exeter, N.H.) and Ted Kennedy (Milton Academy, Milton, Mass.) and Representative John Boehner (Archbishop Moeller High School, Cincinnati) and signed into law by President Bush (Phillips Academy, Andover, Mass.) in 2002.
* Race to the Top (RTTT) was the baby of President Obama (Punahou School, Honolulu).
* StudentsFirst founder Michelle Rhee (Maumee Valley Country Day School, Toledo, Ohio) was the former chancellor of Washington, D.C. schools,
* Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (Cranbrook School, Bloomfield Hills, Mich.) has advocated greater accountability for Massachusetts students and teachers.
* Bill Gates (Lakeside School, Seattle) has been one of the biggest pushers and funders of school privatization schemes and increased class sizes. His own private school had an average class size of 16 and he has touted this as one of the great things about his alma mater.
* Arne Duncan (University of Chicago Laboratory School) has called on public school leaders to increase class sizes to help cut costs, while his own private school had an average class size of 19.
* Jeb Bush (Phillips Andover), is the former governor of Florida and the founder of the Excellence for Education Foundation. He was a pioneer in pushing both greater accountability for schools and Enron accountability for politicians (One year the state report cards gave two-thirds of Florida’s schools A’s or B’s, while the federal system rated two-thirds of Florida schools as failing).
* Chester E. Finn Jr. (Phillips Exeter) was an early supporter of privatization, vouchers and common core curriculum. Finn is a right-wing extremist who said that the best way to reform public education is to “Blow it up and start over.” Like his counterpart, Reid Lyon, who suggested we blow up the teachers’ colleges, this terrorist is still walking free. In fact, he continues to serve as the president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute and as a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution.
* David Levin (Riverdale Country School, the Bronx) is a co-founder of KIPP, the nation’s biggest charter chain.
* Cathie Black (Aquinas Dominican High School, Chicago), is the defrocked chancellor of New York City schools, canned by Emperor Bloomberg after just 95 days, not so much because she was bad at her job (she was), but because of her inability to not make stupid and embarrassing public statements, like suggesting that the solution to New York’s crowded schools was better birth control.
* Merryll H. Tisch (Ramaz School, Manhattan), chancellor of the New York State Board of Regents, along with David M. Steiner (Perse School, Cambridge, England), the New York state education commissioner, have been at the forefront of the state’s extensive testing system.
* Steven Brill (Deerfield Academy, Deerfield, Mass.) is a charter school advocate.
* Marc Sternberg (Episcopal School, Baton Rouge, La.), is a New York City deputy chancellor who has helped move charter schools into district school buildings.
* Davis Guggenheim (Sidwell Friends School, Washington) is the producer and director of “Waiting for Superman,” which begins with him driving his kids to private school and feeling guilty about all the bad Los Angeles public schools he is passing.


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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:39 PM
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1. Alas, there is little difference between Obama and Bush....
>>In a temporary fit of lucidity, the Times acknowledged that there is “little difference between President Obama and former President George W. Bush when it comes to education policy.”>>>


... on MANY things.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:23 PM
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2. I went to private school and no one is a bigger public school proponent than I am
And lots of my classmates are also public school supporters.

I hate this label. It's not accurate and I don't consider myself or 99% of the kids I went to school with to be "brats".

Inaccurate broad brush here.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:36 PM
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3. You have something that the people on the list do not:
familiarity with the subject matter at issue.

In other words: you know what you're talking about. The list members do not.

I agree : the use of "brats" is unfortunate. But I'm pretty sure OP is not talking about you. Or anyone *resembling* you.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:42 PM
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4. I know lots of people in the private school community who support public schools
I realize the OP isn't talking about me. But it's still a broad brush smear that just isn't accurate.

I also value my private school education - that's where I learned to think critically and understand why a vibrant public school system is an asset to any community. And like I said, I am far from alone.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 09:16 PM
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5. PS kids learn to think critically also. At least I hope they do.
I went to private RC elementary and HS, exclusively. I wouldn't presume to tell PS teachers, parents and administrators what is/was wrong/right with the PS system based on on my 12 years of private school education. That would be.....well..... *ridiculous*. No? Is there any other word?

I have... I think... an opinion worth taking seriously as a consequence of many years teaching PS and having parented a child in PS.

I think the OP correctly identifies a real weakness in the modern school "reform" movement. Its most prominent proponents are embarrassingly lacking in the requisite exposure to the phenomenon they are trying to analyze, one; and "reform", two.


It doesn't follow that there are not many private school graduates who can and have contributed productively to the debate re. public schools. I just don't see any on that list.

Exposure and experience *helps*. It is not enough in and of itself; but it *helps*.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 09:22 PM
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6. I hear you
And I agree. But I would place no value on these 'reformers' opinions because they aren't educators, not because they went to private schools.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 09:34 PM
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7. They're GD amateurs... that's fer sure. nt
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 07:13 AM
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8. If they thought so much of public schools, why didn't they attend them?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 01:30 PM
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9. Sometimes religious reasons
Sometimes class size. My high school was very small; I had no classes with more than 8 students. We were very well prepared for college when we graduated.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:51 PM
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10. Yes, and sometimes they thought their kid was a "cut above" and had the bucks to act on it..
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 03:52 PM by whathehell

Yes, I'm sure you were "very well prepared" for college when you graduated.:eyes:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 04:35 PM
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11. And sometimes they are racists who want an exclusive school for their darlings
But there are also racists and parents who believe their darlings are special in public schools too.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:15 PM
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12. Yeah...but those parents don't have the bucks to "discriminate" in that fashion, do they?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:29 PM
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13. So they discriminate in other ways
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:31 PM
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14. Yeah...Somehow though, I bet those kids of wealthy racists are
a bit more "prepared for college" than those of the poor ones.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 09:20 PM
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15. Is there something wrong with being prepared for college?
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 10:04 PM
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16. Only when a large wallet buys more and "better" preparation.

It puts the lie to the old saw about "equal opportunity".
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:00 PM
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17. i wEnt 2 pablik shcool an I thnk itz guud - am hapee surpoter
:hi:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:43 PM
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18. so not funny.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 04:15 PM
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19. +1
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