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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:00 PM
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Social Security suicide
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=18239

Social Security suicide
Molly Ivins - Creators Syndicate

12.14.04 - AUSTIN, Texas -- Relatively recent writings on Social Security, both to reform and not reform, convince me of two things. One is that we should be looking for maximum skepticism in our sources on this subject. And the second is that anybody who starts with dismissive, condescending and absolutist views isn't worth reading or listening to on this subject. So that leaves out politicians.

There's a lot of fake objectivity out there, too. I personally think the Bush proposal for privatizing Social Security is loony, radical and unnecessary, but that's not an argument, it's a conclusion. It's the people who aren't willing to make the case that you have to watch out for.

Also, beware hidden assumptions -- as in, "Everybody knows Social Security is (a) in trouble, (b) bankrupt or (c) will expire next week." In fact, "everybody knows" very little on this subject because the arguments about the system's future are built on complex, long-term economic models that can easily be thrown off by a single year. And if there's one thing the economy does with some regularity, it is confound expert predictions. Demographic changes, population growth and many other variables also influence how the models are drawn.

A second problem is that reporters of all kinds and stripes are notoriously weak on math. The Nation's Calvin Trillin says his trouble stems from his failure to convince his math teachers that many of his answers were meant in an ironic sense. I sometimes have to call John Pope of the New Orleans Times-Picayune just to make sure that going from 40 percent to 60 percent is still an improvement of 20 percentage points, and also a 50 percent improvement.

This debate is landmined with Phony Fun Facts. One notorious scare tactic is to note that when Social Security began, there were 42 workers for each retiree. Now, there are three workers per retiree. And in 25 years, there will be only two. Ergo, we're doomed. Actually, at the "frightening" current rate of three workers per retiree, the system is producing a surplus and being skimmed to finance the rest of the federal budget. Alas, Al Gore's famous "lockbox" got lost along with a lot of hanging chads in Florida.

Q: Can we at least agree that we have a problem? A: No. <snip>

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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:02 PM
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1. B. We will have a problem
if the current administration continues to "borrow fron it".
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:09 PM
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2. The "borrow" is not a problem - the NEVER PAY BACK is the problem
would not want those rich folks to repay the Social Security monies now financing the Bush tax cuts -

sigh

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