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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 04:50 PM
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Ethnic Studies promotes resentment against white people
Edited on Thu May-13-10 05:12 PM by noiretextatique
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and that cannot be tolerated. you must profess to love us at all times
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this reminds me of an incident in a class i took in grad school...many incidents, actually.

i posted a poem i wrote, "never trust the white man" in my online salon. it was a creativity class, so each student had her own online salon. my poem is about my great-grandmother's oft-repeated admonishment. my great-grandmother looked like a white woman, but she held onto whatever drops of black blood she had. we found an old tintype of her and her brother with a dark-skinned little girl and we asked her: who is the little girl? she replied, "that's me...i don't know who those white children are."

the poem started out as an exploration of the irony of my great-grandmother, for all intent and purposes, a white woman, telling her black great-grandchildren never to trust "the white man." in the poem, i describe an incident that actually happened, i.e., my great-grandparents were forced from the land they owned by and angry white mob. they fled to save their children and they lost the property. not only were they perceived to be an interracial couple, and they had the audacity to be more wealthy than many of their white neighbors.

as the poem evolved, i wrote about my grandmother. my parent, and me. i wrote about my cousins who grew up in ft. worth in the 50's and 60's. when the family came to visit on holidays, the neighborhood kids would tease and taunt them: you have white people in your house! so my cousins would run in side and check under the beds and in the closets, then return outside and tell the other kids: we couldn't find any white people. but the children would persist: there are white people in your house!
in frustration and fear, my cousins went to their mother and told her what the kids were saying. she and the other adults laughed, and she told them: baby, tell them it's just family. just family. little black children in texas were terrified of "white people," who bombed churches and murdered little black girls. they lived in segregated neighborhoods, and went to segregated schools. the only white people they knew were the ones they saw on tv, the ones with firehoses and dogs, they one who faces were perpetually contorted in hatred. the ones who spat at them called them niggers. the monsters.

anyway...let me get to the point. there was quite a strong reaction to my poem from some of the other students, in fact all of them except the other person of color in the program, a black man. the reaction was basically: how dare you write about things that make me feel uncomfortable!!!!! i was accused of racism and everything else under the sun, and my only ally was the brother, who defended and supported me.

it got so bad that the professor had to intervene and tell them: you have NO RIGHT to "object" to her life experiences! you have NO RIGHT to personalize her words or to feel hurt by her perspective. you have NO RIGHT to demand, from her, a perspective that makes you feel good about her family's experience...or hers.
he suggested a term, the dominant white, male, christian, heterosexual paradigm, as a more palatable substitute for what my great-grandmother called "the white man."

when i told my friend robyn about this incident, she said: "karen, they aren't used to hearing about the complexities of our lives, especially from our perspectives." this in a nutshell, is what the rage about ethnic studies is all about. when i was in college, i remember how the dorm's common area would be trashed after certain parties, and how bad i felt for the latino janitors who had to clean up the mess.
it wasn't the black or latino or asian students who trashed the place (if we did, it would have called a riot). the trashers were people who had latinos and blacks cleaning up after them at home. it would never even occur to me to leave vomit and beer all over the carpet because i did household chores all my life.

but i digress. do people really think people of color need ethnic studies classes to resent white privilege or to detest the continued teaching of white male hegemony as a natural state as the only valid history? is learning about slavery and jim crow nothing more than hating on white people? as i told a friend the other day, the great thing about the teabaggers is that no one can deny the existence of of racism in america. it is so deeply entrenched in the collective american psyche that, as my friend says, it's almost genetic now. the teabaggers are the extreme version of it, but as we all know very well the insidious nature of the beast.

at 51 years of age, i am a part of the FIRST generation of african-americans who had the full rights of citizenship in this country, since is inception. i never forget that, and i won't let anyone else forget that either. if you don't like the reality of my life and that of my ancestors: tough.
you will continue to hear about it whether you like it or not. and perhaps, just perhaps, if you stop personalizing everything, you just might learn something.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 06:04 PM
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1. Looks like that link went down the rabbit hole. n/t
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 06:06 PM
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2. unfortunately not
Edited on Thu May-13-10 06:06 PM by noiretextatique
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:40 PM
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6. ..................
Edited on Fri May-14-10 11:43 PM by bliss_eternal
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:24 PM
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10. I found those posts before your reply. I think the link was what was bad. It still
comes up as nonexistent. No matter.

That was quite the vomit inducing discussion. And full of straw men that need to be burned. Funny how the discussion can go from "ethnic studies" to immigration. Last I checked a good number of so-called "ethnic" people were born right here. But you're only presumed to belong here if you're white. Funny how that works out in people's minds even those who claim to be "as liberal as they come."
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:34 PM
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12. That happened because one of those posters is also the leading propnent of the
AZ law that allows shakedowns of "Mexican-looking" people
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 10:14 PM
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14. wow...how did i miss that?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 02:45 PM
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3. . .
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 06:41 PM
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4. My GrandMother also taught me
that I should NEVER trust white people. She said it was OK to be friends with them, but I should never trust them.

Interestingly, she and her siblings were the biracial children of an interracial couple. She was raised around her white family, grandparents, uncles and cousins. Yer, they were also driven from their land shortly after the death of their Father.

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:25 PM
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5. When the Texas Board of Education talks about wanting to preserve
"American Exceptionalism," what they're REALLY saying is that they don't want to be reminded of the times America (as ruled by white, anglo-saxon, protestant, heterosexual men) has SERIOUSLY screwed up and been hypocritical since its inception. They'd rather turn a blind eye to the wrongs committed and dwell on all the good, gee-golly wonderful things America has done. ("And if you don't like it, by God, then LEAVE.")

White people don't like to hear about the historical negatives, or about the necessity to own up to the wrongs that have happened. It makes them uncomfortable. And we can't have white people being uncomfortable in ANY way, shape or form.

As we've seen in recent events, it is perfectly acceptable and even lauded as patriotic when white people can use the media to their advantage to assail people of color with hostility and invective in the name of preserving "traditional" American culture.

Really creative progressives with a racist bent will use the cries of "self-segregation," "reverse racism," "we're the GOOD whites who helped 'you people,' show some gratitude" and "it-happened-long-time-ago-and-I'm-not-personally-responsible, so-get-over-it."

But a minority group BETTER rein it in and keep their grievances, "legitimate" or otherwise, about what has been done to their people, history and culture BY WHITE PEOPLE to themselves, because whites don't want to hear about it, and will shut. you. down. by any means necessary.

(Hell, that happens HERE!)

Is it really "playing the race card" when you're playing the hand you've been dealt, by rules that change all the freaking time?
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:05 AM
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7. History uncensored
It's annoying that only one, the white folks' feel-good version, is the only one taught and no one else's version is allowed. As seen, any variation of that "history" is not allowed or met with extreme resistance. White people shall not be allowed to feel any guilt or shame about the past, even though it seems to be lurking just below the surface. Problems from the past cannot be corrected unless they are known and acknowledged.

History forgotten is history repeated.

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:14 PM
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9. AND: If you happen to be a white person who understands what's going on
(God bless you and heaven help you if you are/do)

....then you're a "traitor to the race," profiting as a "race dealer" (like Tim Wise), or suffer from that terrible disillusioning malady known as "white guilt," which is something you should be ashamed of because it SOMEHOW means you're ashamed of your ancestry or country, and can't be taken seriously by any self-respecting white person. SOMEHOW. You are to be PITIED, not emulated.


Since WHEN is expressing sorrow, remorse and TRUE repentance for something wrong that was done BAD?!


Most people who weren't even INVOLVED in the Holocaust feel PROFOUND shame and remorse for what happened; and vocal people who insist on denying the Holocaust are publically shunned and discredited. Why can't people of color in this country get the same respecful acknowledgement?


Why can't most people aware of the consequences of Manifest Destiny, Jim Crow, Japanese Internment, etc. feel profound shame and remorse (even if they weren't directly involved), and publically acknowledge it? No, to bring that up means we're "playing a race card" over something that happened in the past and we need to "get over it." Or some stupid excuse is made like "Blacks are better off having been slaves here in America than if they had stayed in Africa, so whites did them a favor." Or even, "We have more pressing problems here today (like Darfur and Haiti) that demand time and energy. We can't spend it worrying about the past because we can't change the past. Let's redeem ourselves with current African and Haitian atrocities and make it look like we give a damn about brown people."

"Hell, if we dehumanize them enough, maybe it'll be easier to convince folks all these people DESERVED what was coming to them." SOMEHOW.


Why aren't people who belittle the consequences of these events publically shunned and discredited? Because they get prime time exposure on cable TV, or their own radio show, that's why! And they're lauded for expressing their "God-given American right to free speech."

It's sickening.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:36 AM
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8. I can't even begin...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:31 PM
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11. That's why I love Colbert's "I don't see color" bit.
It's right on. That stance is really just an excuse to ignore multiculturalism while receiving all the benefits of being white.

Stephen: Now, I don't see color. People tell me I'm white and I believe them because police officers call me "sir".

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:41 PM
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13. Paragraph 7 says it all. n/t
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