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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 01:52 PM
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When does accident prone-ness become a symptom?>
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 01:56 PM by undergroundpanther
I ask this because in late October (fucked up my Halloween plans) That time I fell down my stairs (12 of them) at night and banged my back and broke my leg, it was a green stick fracture in my tibia no big deal but I had to wear a brace for awhile.

Yesterday I went out at my roommates awed urgings to check out the moon,it was beautiful !! ..But I didn't bother to put on my shoes thinking I'd only be out there a short time .After awhile I noticed it was damn it's cold on my feet ,and I went in the house to put my shoes on, and on the way in I clipped my toe on the threshold and twisted my knee out pretty bad. Didn't call the Ambulance I just straightened it and put a neoprene hinged brace on it. Yeah it's still swollen, I had iced it.. I got in the immobilizer now, the one I had leftover from the fracture I had before on the OTHER leg. It doesn't hurt that much, but it's just really unsteady, the brace holds it still/in line so I can walk. I have noticed recently been banging myself up, With stupid clumsy accidents and such. This is the second fall where I have messed up my legs and made walking a pain in the ass..WTF is going on. Any thoughts?
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:11 PM
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1. Sounds like it's just bad luck, panther
Something of which I've had a lot of in my life. If you are posting in this forum chances are it's because of bad luck. ;)

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:17 PM
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2. My story... and I've heard this from other people who've struggled with
depression and post-traumatic stress disorder and other mental health issues...

When I first started facing my issues, I recall noticing, sort of out of the blue one day, that I always had a lot of bruises and could not remember how I had gotten them. I wasn't having black outs or dissociative episodes, I just had bruises on my legs and arms and couldn't remember what I had done to cause them. The bruises were not just little brown spots - some were the really impressive purple, red, green and yellow type with significant swelling. When I thought about it, over the next few weeks and months, I realized that I was banging into stuff a lot - moving suddenly and banging my leg on my desk or against a chair or car door -- but I still didn't have memorable events that I could connect with specific bruises.

I decided that I needed to slow down and be present in my body and that I would try to notice when I banged into something and stop and feel the pain and say to myself something like "ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow" and add something nice "geez, you didn't deserve that". I felt dumb doing this, but, over time, I became more likely to be able to say where I had gotten a particular bruise -- "that bruise on my thigh, I got that on Wednesday when I turned around too quickly and banged into one of the wooden desks in my classroom".

My overall goal was to feel the pain, stop myself from engaging in automatic self-critical thinking that happened whenever I hurt myself, and to, eventually, slow down and be more careful how I was moving myself around in the world.

The issue about automatic self-critical thinking came to my awareness when I visited my sister and her two kids. The youngest was about 4-years-old at the time and one night, after he was supposed to be in bed, he was running around his room and banged into a piece of furniture and started crying really hard. My sister went to the doorway of my nephew's room and then stopped when her husband walked towards her to ask what was going on. My sister volunteered that my nephew didn't like people to touch him when he was hurt. I thought about that a bit and realized that each time he hurt himself my sister and her husband would instantly start criticizing him -- he should have known better, he shouldn't have been out of bed at night, he shouldn't have jumped on that piece of furniture, he sure was a stupid kid.

I was walking with him and my niece the next day and he was running on a gravel road and fell down and his knee started bleeding. He started crying and looked at me with fear in his eyes. I said that it really looked like he had hurt himself, that he had fallen hard and that I was really sorry to see that he was in pain. He limped right over to me and put his arms around me and we stayed there for a few minutes until the worst of the pain subsided and then I offered to carry him home and he let me. He volunteered all by himself that he sure wasn't going to run on that gravel road anymore. The moral of the story: He didn't need anyone to tell him to stop doing what had just hurt him. He did need people to let him feel the physical hurt without piling on emotional abuse immediately after he hurt himself physically.

I realized that my sister was showing the same behavior with her children that my parents had shown to us when we were kids.

So, to stop the pattern of behavior that led me to be accident-prone as an adult, I needed to teach myself to act like a warm, loving parent -- to say kind, compassionate things to myself when I had hurt myself; to slow down and feel the pain when it happened; and to allow those experiences to change my behavior so that I slowed down in the world and moved more carefully and got hurt less often.

I rarely have bruises now.

P.S. While I talked about bruises above, I also frequently twisted my knees and ankles. I remember sitting on a concrete floor one day and my foot fell asleep - I stood up suddenly and heard a nasty sound as my ankle bent in a way that ankles aren't supposed to bend. I was on crutches for about a week after that. I wrenched my knees on stairs and walking in snow. Even worse: I was so anxious and on such an intense adrenalin high all the time that I wound up in 7 auto collisions in about 10 years. I was really, really lucky that I never had any major injuries and neither did anyone else involved - it is a miracle that that is so.

I don't know if my experience will connect with yours, but I wish you the best figuring out what is going on with you.

:hug:
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:54 AM
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3. this is a really well written post
what's interesting to me is that when i do something to my car, like scrape the bottom of the bumper on a high curb, i tell her i'm sorry and i didn't mean to hurt her

but when i hurt myself (i'm prone to tripping sometimes and also find bruises that i cannot connection with a memorable incidences), i criticize myself. i ask myself how is it that i'm such a klutz and don't pay more attention.

i try to slow down, but that can be difficult for me. i will try being more caring toward myself and see what happens
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:17 PM
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4. I do get
The mysterious bruising.I notice it than I also don't remember it,but than I forget. My presence in body is fleeting at best.I don't really want to be here.I hate this world I hate being stuck in this flesh,because it is like a cage of endless limits. I don't want to parent myself or anyone else, in fact everyday I look forward to death opening this prison door so I can get out..

But the time I fell down the stairs and when I twisted my knee there was no stoic lip biting here.I howled and yelled in pain.When I fell downstairs My roommate woke up came down and helped me up,he also checked my head and saw it was a minor cut,and when I was putting on clothes to go to the hospital, he suddenly passed out. So I ended up hobbling into the hall when I heard the crash, I helped him as best as I could,telling him to sit,and I called 911 for both of us.

This time I twisted my knee I haven't been to the ER or anything yet.
It doesn't hurt all that much it just is very unstable and I cannot bend it much.I slowly limp around. It has been a pain to deal with during the stupid holidays mandatory fucking holiday crap.. anyways,.
I can't wait until I leave this sick sad world,and leave this flesh jail to rot away.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:04 AM
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5. i hope you are getting help, undergroundpanther
i don't mean this in a condescending way or anything, but i do hope you can get help and find peace

i know this hopelessness and it breaks my heart that others feel the same

peace to you
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