Hillary/Warner in 08! any takers?

[Hell in a Handbasket]

I think we should face it- if Hillary wants the nomination, i doubt she wont get it. That's fairly ok with me, as long as she goes back to being the Hillary I knew and loved a while back. Also, Warner can help win the moderates and maybe some southerners back.

[Crunchy Frog]

1. I don't have anything against Hillary

although she's more conservative and hawkish than I like. I just really don't think that she would be able to win in the general election. The RW has done such an effective job of demonizing her over the past decade and a half that half the country believes she's the anti-Christ.

If she were running, particularly at the top of the ticket, I can just imagine the trailor parks of the nation being absolutely emptied of people going out to vote for the first time in their lives against the Devil incarnate.

That's just my feeling on the matter. I realize that others may differ in their opinions.

[Hell in a Handbasket]

2. i suppose that could be the case, but the problem is

the GOP will demonize anybody...up to and including a purple heart winning war hero with a great senate record. I think the key is gaining balance in the media.

[Placebo]

3. I'm sure Hillary will make a great choice...

as to her running mate. She's quite the wise one. :D

[Hell in a Handbasket]

4. indeed she is.

do you think there's a better choice for her than Warner?

[Placebo]

6. I'm not sure...

it will obviously have to be a white man, to counter the fact that she's a woman but still not push the "minority" aspect of her candidacy too much.

[Warpy]

5. NO!!!!

No more damned DLC milksops! No more Repug-lite twits ignoring the party base! No more squabbling over yuppies while millions are out of work!

No more losing elections!

[Hell in a Handbasket]

7. Hillary is no one's Milksop.

neither is Warner. As long as Hillary manages to go back to her original views, i think she'd be fine.

[Placebo]

8. Winning elections like...Howard Dean?

:D

[Hell in a Handbasket]

9. lol.

In fairness, i dont know that dean could have done any worse than Kerry did. I would rather have had a Dean/Clark ticket this time around.

[Pam-Moby]

10. Me too n/t

[xmas74]

26. Same here.

[OneBlueSky]

11. one more time . . . no, no, no! . . .

Hillary is Republican lite, DLC all the way . . . and we need someone who is NOT a northeast senator as our candidate . . . watch her vote on bankruptcy reform, and then rethink your position . . .

[Hell in a Handbasket]

12. i dont think she's publite. as long as she goes back to her roots.

and as far as the northeast thing goes...how long did she live in arkansas? and, wouldnt warner help even it out?

[Crunchy Frog]

13. Well, we can always try it and see what happens.

The worst that can come of it is 8 years of Bill Frist or Jeb. Small price to pay though for finally having a woman at the top of a major ticket. Of course, we couldn't go with a woman like Boxer who doesn't need to "go back to her roots" whatever that means. Better go with one who's pretty far to the right, despite the fact that she's absolutely demonized by them.

If nothing else, it will at least make 2008 entertaining.

[Hell in a Handbasket]

14. Boxer? I'll have to check, but I think it was HILLARY

that had a poll saying 40 percent of dems wanted her to run.

[Crunchy Frog]

15. I wasn't comparing poll numbers,

just principles and willingness to stick to them. At this point I don't really care anymore if 40% of Democrats want to push the party over a cliff. Maybe Frist or Jeb won't be so bad after all.

[Hell in a Handbasket]

16. i'll tell you what.

if a hillary/warner combo can push the dems 'over the cliff', then we are well and truly fucked, reglardless of who runs.

[Crunchy Frog]

18. Well, you may be right about that.

I believe that Hillary has some unique liabilities that make her a particularly bad choice to run for President, but I respect that others differ in that belief.

In the end, we'll just have to see what happens.:shrug:

[Wilms]

22. "as long as she goes back to her roots"

OK, that's the third time you brought the notion.

Maybe she already HAS gone back to her roots. :shrug:

I don't claim to understand it, but there is a lot of pro-Hillary posturing that doesn't seem to account for political reality.

But I'm used to losing so, sure, lets nominate her.

[Crunchy Frog]

24. It's my understanding that her "roots"

are those of a "Goldwater girl". Maybe that's what he means.:shrug:

Unfortunately, the right will demonize her (more effectively than they do others IMO), no matter how far to the right she moves.

[saracat]

38. Hillary's roots are Repub.

She was a Goldwater girl! We don't want her to go back to her roots!

[never_get_over_it]

17. Absolutely NOT

and not only don't I like her and I'm a Dem - the right wing hates her and the media will grind her into dust...she blows with the wind like her husband - she voted for the war resolution, Condi Rice and has been saying shit I don't like about choice and faith based bull so Hillary bite me you'll never get my vote - and that goes for Kerry too who didn't stand up and fight the fraud - right now the only Dems I will support are those who voted against the war resolution, stood up against the vote fraud, called Condi for the liar that she is and voted against the torturer-general - so I guess that would be Barbara Boxer. But it is WAY too early for any of this

[Hell in a Handbasket]

19. well then.

it does indeed seem like you've narrowed the field quite a bit, let's hope Boxer has high ambitions.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. I think that Boxer would be a much better choice

than Hillary. She's not my first choice for the nomination, but I could certainly get behind her. She doesn't have the kind of baggage that Hillary has. She doesn't have a decade and a half of RW demonization, and she hasn't compromised her principles in ways that seriously turn off progressives the way Hillary has.

I would far rather see Hillary remain in the Senate, and maybe begin taking somewhat stronger stands for Democratic values.

[Southsideirish]

21. Bugs Bunny/Madonna in 08! Any takers?????

[Hell in a Handbasket]

23. no, that would have been this last timea round, when the ABB ticket

was a popular idea.

[Township75]

25. Please tell me why Hillary gets a shot before Boxer, before Dean, before

Schumer, before Edwards, before Kucinich, before...well you get the picture. There are so many people who have worked for us longer than she has, and I dont think she is always working for us. I just don't get the love-fest for this woman.

Warner will be awesome, and I would prefer to see him up first. He got the Dems a governorship in the South, and has done an outstanding job in VA.

[Silverhair]

27. That's a sure loser for 08. NT

[MattG]

29. Everytime I hear Hillary in 08 . . .

I wish I could be a repub for a brief moment so I could get the complimentary gun that comes with Repubism and shoot whoever said "Hillary in 08"


NO HILLARY NO NO NO NO NO NO HILLARY EVER!!!

Everytime someone says Hillary in 08, a republican ejaculates and says "AHHH VICTORY!!!"


People hate her, I don't care for her that much either. I like Bill just fine in fact, YAY BILL FOR GETTIN SOME ON THE SIDE!!! I would say 80% of the country thinks of Hillary in a similar way 80% of Democrats think of CONDOLEEZA RICE.

in conclusion, "if you can't say anything nice about somebody, you must be talking about Hillary Clinton"----Jeff Foxworthy.

[Conservativesux]

41. I agree. If Hillary runs in 2008 we Dems lose to the RepUGhs...again!

[DrGonzoLives]

28. No

If Hillary wants the nomination, she's fighting for it.

[Hell in a Handbasket]

30. if she wants the nomination, its hers. nt

[DrGonzoLives]

31. You seem awfully determined

to have Hillary as the candidate. Something tells me you're less than a neutral observer here.

Why are you so hell-bent on putting out the worst of the front-runners that we have?

[Hell in a Handbasket]

i'm not hell bent, i'm being realistic.

besides, why do you think she is one of the worst candidates? She is one of the biggest leaders in the party. and with Warner at her side, i think they'd do very well.

[DrGonzoLives]

34. Realistic?

So you don't think that the right-wing and the media will blast her into radioactive dust? That every dumbass Clinton scandal won't come back to the forefront? That it will be aobut Hillary v. the anti-Hillary? That she simply is not that popular outside of New York?

[saracat]

39. I will state this again. I have never met

any Democrat who wants her to run. That was a GOP biased poll. BTW, do you like Hillary's voting record? I wouldn't vote for anyone with that kind of record.

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[sniffa]

33. heLL no!!

[Hell in a Handbasket]

35. alrighty then.

:shrug:

[Fla4kerry]

36. Hillary /Warner in 2008?

I was really hoping Kerry would have picked Warner this time around..
Don't think Hillary will get elected just tooooooo polarizing, and the people here are right the media will take her apart, they are already doing now!
I say Obama should be vice pres candidate, don't think Dean will run, he had to commit 4 full yrs as DNC Chair. RNC have been chanting Condi as possible VP candidate, if so we have trouble having a black women on the ticket in order to cut into a large block of black voters..

Organize now !

[trillian]

37. Clark/Warner - A ticket that will win!

Better hope Hillary doesn't get the nomination. No way will she win in November.

[Laurab]

40. Hell no here, too

I don't like to speculate about '08, we've got some work to do regarding election reform first, or it won't matter. But, everytime I see Hillary listed as being a "front runner", I just don't get it. WHY? I like her ok, I'm in NY, she's my senator, and an ok one I guess, although I didn't agree with her Rice vote. But what has she done, aside from being the wife of a popular and CHARISMATIC (the thing she's really missing) president? Really, I have nothing against her, but I just don't see why she's considered a "front runner". Name recognition? Yeah, but not always in a good way.

Ambition - yeah. So what? There are a lot of ambitious potential candidates who stick to their principles, and don't go wherever the political winds are taking them. I want to see the repukes OUT of the WH, and while I don't have any idea who I want to see in there, I have a pretty good idea it's not Hillary. She's a good senator.

[ABaker]

42. Hillary will be

the Democratic presidential candidate in 2008 because the Clintons have a lot of power and money. Many Democratic office holders are in their debt, couldn't have gotten elected without them.

If Hillary runs, everyone else will step aside to "pay their debt" to the Clintons.

[welshTerrier2]

43. my litmus test: NO MORE PNAC MONEY

i will not support under any circumstances any candidate who votes any additional funds to enable bush to continue his PNAC agenda in the Middle East ...

ABB is DEAD ...

it's time to call on ALL Democrats to stop authorizing money for bush's war ... those who don't "get it" do not deserve our support ... let's support Democratic candidates who do ...

[pauliedee]

44. No Way !@#(*&^$!!!!!

Terrible ticket.....Kerry/Clark, Kerry/Biden, Kerry/Richardson much better tickets.

[pauliedee]

45. She's weak and republican kiss as

John Kerry should run in 2008. We need a man who can endure the rigors of the grueling campaign. She'll faint over and over again... and some republican like john mccain will be catching her.

NO WAY!!!!

[AJH032]

46. I would like Hillary, but...

I just don't think she would win unless the Republicans run someone like Elizabeth Dole. Look, I love the thought of having Bill Clinton back in the White House by getting Hillary elected, but it's just not realistic.

[FiveGoodMen]

47. Between her Iraq war vote

which she still insists was CORRECT(!*&^*&*&^^#) and her recent statements that help Bush get the people ready to attack Syria ... NO.


NO, NO, NO, NO. I don't want her in the Senate, let alone the Oval Office. Not now, not ever.

[Southsideirish]

48. Great! The "suicide ticket" - well done!