LATEST on NAFTA Gate from Canada Press - No briefing from Clinton campaign!

[libbygurl]

Here's the official story, folks! (I think PMO = 'Prime Minister's Office'?

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PMO: Canadian officials only got briefing from Obama campaign - not Clinton

6 hours ago

OTTAWA — Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton never gave Canada any secret assurances about the future of NAFTA such as those allegedly offered by Barack Obama's campaign, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office said Friday.

With the NAFTA affair swirling over the U.S. election and Canadian officials skittish about saying anything else that might influence the race, it took the PMO two days to deliver the information.

After being asked whether Canadian officials asked for - or received - any briefings from a Clinton campaign representative outlining her plans on NAFTA, a spokeswoman for the prime minister offered a response Friday.

"The answer is no, they did not," said Harper spokeswoman Sandra Buckler. ...

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MORE at http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNMJKvj5eQRQBNSeQj3bTyETSagQ



So what took them so long to issue this confirmation of what the Clintons have been saying?

[rodeodance]

1. Just heard abc evening news clip:--BO is in WY--he was telling the crowd

that Clinton was wrong on this and he was right.


this was this afternoon.

[libbygurl]

2. Well, he better straighten them out now - or else say the Canadian PMO is lying!

nt.

[rodeodance]

3. will you--can you post in gd-P? or has it been posted?

[libbygurl]

4. Dunno, haven't checked, but...

...do I need to babysit the thread, or just leave it after posting? I'm just about to leave here in a few....

[rodeodance]

5. I will post then OK---right now. thanks.

[libbygurl]

6. Okay - thanks, rodeo! Good luck out there - be safe.

Gotta leave now - will continue this when I get home later. The story got me really excited!

[rodeodance]

7. I posted here in GD-P---please go out and give a REC please-or comment!

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject LATEST on NAFTAGate from Canada-**No briefing from Clinton campaign!
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4957308#4957308
4957308, LATEST on NAFTAGate from Canada-**No briefing from Clinton campaign!
Posted by rodeodance on Fri Mar-07-08 05:52 PM



Here's the official story, folks!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PMO: Canadian officials only got briefing from Obama campaign - not Clinton

6 hours ago

OTTAWA — Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton never gave Canada any secret assurances about the future of NAFTA such as those allegedly offered by Barack Obama's campaign, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office said Friday.

With the NAFTA affair swirling over the U.S. election and Canadian officials skittish about saying anything else that might influence the race, it took the PMO two days to deliver the information.

After being asked whether Canadian officials asked for - or received - any briefings from a Clinton campaign representative outlining her plans on NAFTA, a spokeswoman for the prime minister offered a response Friday.

"The answer is no, they did not," said Harper spokeswoman Sandra Buckler. ...

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MORE at http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNMJKvj5eQRQBNSeQj3bTyETSagQ



So what took them so long to issue this confirmation of what the Clintons have been saying?

[libbygurl]

8. Thanks, Rodeo.

Just FYI: my source for this was the Fact Hub on hillaryclinton.com.. I think people also send tips to them re important stories for Hillary.

[jillan]

9. I emailed this to msnbc, and to Keith Obamamann demanding an apology.

(like that would ever happen)

[kikiek]

10. Good for you! That is great. He sure jumped on it. DIdn't care if true or not. Some journalist.

[jillan]

17. Someone corrected me last night and told me that Keith is a commentator, not a journalist...

so it was okay that he was acting like this.

:puke:

[kikiek]

21. Their rule of thumb is just saying it makes it so.

[libbygurl]

12. LOL - Keith Obamamann! That about sums it up, hey? You guys just crack me up.

And I really need that more and more these days while on DU...er, OU!

Well, for my part, I won't be holding my breath waiting for an apology or retraction from Mr Obamamann! Hmm, unless the GE bigwigs send down some marching orders, for one weird reason or another....

[jillan]

15. I can't take credit for that - I saw that in gd-p last nite, and it cracked me

up :P

[zabet]

11. Good catch!!

I k and R'ed Rodeo's
post in GDPottymouth too.

:yourock:

[libbygurl]

13. Thanks for the kind words, too, cj! Ha, ha - GDPottymouth!

D'you notice how few visits that thread got from the O peeps? They still prefer to keep away from the truth. Especially when their guy is looking really foolish now.

[kikiek]

14. Hard to not be a pottymouth out there isn't it? I have lost my cool over and over lately.

The idiots are so bent on tearing apart Hillary they don't care if anything is true or not. If we lose the election we can blame the media including the so called liberals on radio and tv who jump on the "Obama is a saint Hillary aint" train daily. Of course they will once again blame......Hillary. It's the 90's all over again. On edit I think it is time to change my avatar.

[zabet]

16. I have lost my cool a few times too.

Hillary is the new Clenis.
That is 99% of Obama supporters'
arguments, 'But, but...Hillary!'.
They never tout anything positive
about Obama usually other than the
IWR vote. (you know the one he was
not even in office to vote either
way). A few try to throw up
Kyl-Liebermann but, I just point
out that is another vote Obama didn't
think was important enough to show
up for.

[kikiek]

20. There is so much out there on Obama. We just need to start looking for it.

Turnaround is fair play.

[zabet]

22. There is, I am sure.

He resorted to under-handed legal
maneuvers in Illinois to get his
opponents off the ballot so he could
run un-opposed. He argued that their
petitions were not 'legal' or 'within
the guidelines' or something like that.
My PC is in the shop, chimpy made me
spill coffee on the keyboard on my laptop
at the last STOTU, am having it replaced.
Currently, the old pc I am using does not
have javascript enabled and I cannot look at
archived documents from a lot of the newspapers.
Search Obama, 1998 for example. And other
years he was in Illinois. I have articles
saved on my other laptop about Hyde Park,
and people protesting Obama chanting, 'No
more Obamanation', even back then. He was
also accused of being too 'vanilla' by his
constituents.

[kikiek]

24. He is phony. He was has been very tight with Ford and Lieberman.

In so many cases, Sen. Obama has effectively been on the DLC bandwagon - for quite a while now - even if he hasn't (yet) formally attached himself to the DLC. Let's take an example that Kagro X is annoyed by:

I can't go on. It's too depressing. Dare I even mention the Ford educational platform?

Ford also felt there was a growing problem in our educational system.

He has supported vouchers of the most expensive school in the area. Republican's have said that is too much of a voucher, and Democrats have argued that the voucher would take away from local schooling.

"If parent's are willing to pay $20,000 a year to send their kids to kindergarten, that tells me two things; one there is a problem and two, they really love their kids," he said.

Sen. Obama, in his long-standing quest for Republican and Independent votes during the Democratic primary, has been employing right-leaning dog-whistle rhetoric in many situations, education being one of them:

Obama is "Open" to Vouchers

Yesterday, I asked if Democrat Barack Obama would stand up to teachers' unions and embrace policies that they would oppose.

Well, it seems he's doing just that.

In an eyebrow-raising statement to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Illinois senator said he's a skeptic of vouchers, but that he might be open to them if studies show that's "what's best for kids." (UPDATE: Watch the video here.)

The entire passage is worth repeating, since even an "openness" toward vouchers is a major departure for a Democratic presidential candidate:

Obama said he has been a strong supporter of charter schools "as a way to foster competition in the public school system."

He pronounced himself a skeptic of private school vouchers, saying: "My view is you're not going to generate the supply of high-quality schools to meet the demand."

Obama said he was surprised to learn from Gov. Jim Doyle that "there was no assessment process" for the Milwaukee program but indicated he might be open to supporting voucher programs if studies show they work.

"If there was any argument for vouchers, it was 'Let's see if the experiment works,' " Obama said. "And if it does, whatever my preconception, you do what's best for kids."

I'm sure that as you read this, the folks at the pro-voucher Friedman Foundation and the Alliance for School Choice are assembling a binder full of studies to send Obama.
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012025.php

[zabet]

25. It just makes me sad

that the dumbing down of America
has worked. They have sold half
the masses an American Idol style
candidate. All hype and hoopla,
with an agenda. His reaching across
the aisle is only for them to pull
him the rest of the way over.
You cannot play nice with the repugs,
you play with shit and you end up
stinking too.

[kikiek]

26. And it is tiring fighting it. I'm half asleep. But I am tired of the crap so I'm poking the bears.

Having problems keeping things straight I've got so many going on. I need some sleep! There is so much out there about Obama's ties to DLC before he hated them. The people who knew him before and how calculating he has been. But to his hypnotized supporters he is Saint Obama. Never a bad thought or deed in his entire life. It is dumbing down America. I am reading Susan Jacoby's book about that now. The Age of American Unreason. She hits the nail on the head. They're as dumbed down as it gets haha..

[libbygurl]

27. Oh, the sad irony about Jacoby! Recently interviewed on NPR, she sounded like she liked O over HRC!

She made two mentions positive for O, and two negative for C - something about O and 'change' again - can't recall exactly what as I quickly got confused, then livid about her strange preference.

Did anyone else hear that interview? Not sure if it was 'Diane Rehm Show' (with guest host) or Terry Gross's 'Fresh Air', or other. Maybe can re-listen online on npr.org after doing a search.

And I thought her book explained precisely and so well the roots of this madness, this Obama mania phenomenon. I was so disappointed to hear her express these opinions - not overtly said, but disturbingly slanted enough to me.

[kikiek]

28. I heard her on Bill Moyer. I didn't get that from her at all. I have it taped will watch it

again.

[libbygurl]

29. I hope I'm wrong about it-because her premise perfectly explains this O lunacy.

Was it last night's Bill Moyers? Missed that one. Shall try online, too.

[kikiek]

31. It was from 2/17

[libbygurl]

32. The radio program I listened to was from a couple of days ago only.

On NPR via Sirius satellite radio. One of the well-known talk shows. Will try to look for it later.

[zabet]

18. Unless it's a 'halo polishing thread'

or a Hillary hate thread, they
stay away for the most part.
Factual threads are like kryptonite
to Obamamites, especially when they
are less than glorious exaltations
of his greatness.

[robbedvoter]

19. "Both did it" - typical MSM cover up for GOP, BFEE - see Enron, Abramoff

Whenever they are caught pants down, say "they all do it"
I remember an AP article: Enron CEOs contacted Gore's campaign" - somewhere in the 5th paragraph came the info "they were sent away". Same with Abramoff. BO officially gets the bush treatment from HIS media.

[robbedvoter]

23. adding the link to the gd-p thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4957308&mesg_id=4957308

[Alamom]

30. I added this to Rodeodances' thread from yesterday

The truth is out in every major news outlet this morning...


Obama may need to change his story to the public as well as TV news. The voters know the truth now.


Clinton camp never briefed Ottawa, official says
Globe and Mail, Canada - 3 hours ago

OTTAWA -- The campaign of Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton never briefed Canadian officials on its position on NAFTA, unlike the team of ...

PMO: Canadian officials only got briefing from Obama campaign ... The Canadian Press

Clinton's Campaign Did Not Brief Canadians on Trade, CP Reports Bloomberg

Truth has been lost in the storm Toronto Star

Toronto Star - Globe and Mail
all 494 news articles »






http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.200803...

Clinton camp never briefed Ottawa, official says
CAMPBELL CLARK

With a report from The Canadian Press

March 8, 2008

OTTAWA -- The campaign of Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton never briefed Canadian officials on its position on NAFTA, unlike the team of rival Barack Obama, according to a spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Mr. Obama's campaign has been hurt by leaks that indicated that his senior economic adviser gave Canadian diplomats a back-channel reassurance that his call for renegotiating the North American free-trade agreement was more political positioning than a real policy plan.

But the revelation that the initial leak to reporters from Mr. Harper's top aide, Ian Brodie, was that Ms. Clinton's campaign reassured Canadian diplomats that it was not serious about revamping NAFTA has led to questions about whether both Democratic campaigns had privately reassured Ottawa.

Mr. Harper's communications director, Sandra Buckler, said yesterday that Ms. Clinton's campaign did not brief Canadians on its NAFTA stand. "The answer is no, they did not," she said.

edit to add link

[libbygurl]

33. Thanks for that, alamom! nt