More women going to college than men! It's a crisis!

[Hello_Kitty]

This thread has me so angry. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5776212&mesg_id=5776212

Girls work hard in school to get into college and make something of themselves while a lot of their male counterparts screw off and disdain education as for "wusses" and now that (duh!) female enrollment is outpacing males it simply MUST be because of a concerted effort to discriminate against the poor boys. Makes me sick.

[bliss_eternal]

1. wow...

i saw lots of rather lame rationalizations for male priviledge. lol.
clearly the dudes are beside themselves. they don't understand how (or why) women seem to be getting the upper hand in education. so they have to blame women, and "the system" instead of looking at themselves.

for example:
...all the young men that spend inordinate amounts of time on-line, playing video games and watching pornography. some of the same young men that do so have illusions that they will become the next "larry flynt" or "girls gone wild" proprietor.

btw--i had posted something like this response in the thread, thought better of it and deleted it.
given the responses already there, no one would understand my point. i'm not in the mood for flaming.

[ismnotwasm]

2. Stupid

I work with many resident doctors. Guess who has a much rougher time of it, if she has chosen to have children? Yet women in medicine is about 50%, despite incredible challenges. Not just child birth or child raising, but getting fellowships and/or Attending positions. Or Professorships in these same colleges men are whining about.
http://www.aamc.org/members/wim/statistics/stats08/start.htm

"Twenty years ago, women accounted for 34% of new entrants to medical schools, and they now represent essentially 50% of new entrants (1). Yet, national data indicate that women in academic medicine are less likely to attain promotion and tenure than their male colleagues; are under-represented in leadership positions; and, are significantly over-represented in junior faculty ranks"
http://www.med.upenn.edu/focus/Benchmarks.shtml

The determination and perseverance is what's getting, and keeping women in colleges and Universities and-- Heavens! Non-Traditional (puke I'm starting to hate that term) Woman's Career's

[musette_sf]

3. how do you spell relief?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5776212&mesg_id=5776212

click link in OP out of morbid curiosity.

Result:
"You are ignoring the author of this thread"

ahhhhhhh.

[ismnotwasm]

4. Ah, yes that one

Once pointed out to me that "Baby got Back" Er, the song, was an example of enlightened and progressive view of women of color and body image. Or some such weird shit.

[He loved Big Brother]

5. Wow. I read that entire thing.

Once upon a time, the situation was flipped, and women were barely allowed to have an education. And yet, we persevered. We kept at it. We were discouraged at every turn by universities, and school prior to that was VERY MASCULINE.

But it didn't stop women, and look at us today.

So I wonder, what is the boys' excuse? Knowledge isn't like a cup of sugar that gets used up. There's enough to go around. So what if there's more women around. Deal with it. We dealt with the imbalance for centuries. Unless we ought to start fixing the "problem". Which would be nothing less than an erasing of all gender-role-oriented behavior in the classroom. I'm down with that!

Somehow I don't think a lot of the guys would be though. So because we are catching up to them, they drop out? Avoid college? Girls have cooties?


Such a shame. It's no more inconvenient to respect equality than it would be to "accommodate" those who do not. ESPECIALLY in a learning institution. Maybe someone should tell them they have nothing to fear- the wage gap is still in their favor.

Only...women aren't exactly earning 78 cents to every man's dollar. Some women are. The ones who are in th top tier jobs like law and medicine will probably earn 70-80 cents for every dollar a man earns.

But the rest of the jobs, the wage gap widens as the pay gets lower. So when people say it's a myth that women earn 70-whatever cents to the men's dollar, they're right. The bulk of working women are earning more like 30-50 cents for the very same work.

And not getting management positions. One million female employees suing Wal-Mart isn't an isolated incident, just the largest one. So maybe that is why more women are going to college. I'm glad we are too, but I'm sad that men won't be "getting their learn on" with us. Because these are the same men who will resent women later for earning more than them. Or maybe they will actually enjoy being house husbands. That would be refreshing.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

6. I got a science degree thirty years ago this past May. I'm female.

A B.A. in biology from an excellent pre-med liberal arts school.

And in 1985 I got a Juris Doctor, when women were about one-third of law students. Not that either degree got me anywhere, but I did it.