"A generation of men..."

[Cerridwen]

and no one says a word, no one sees a problem, few have a clue, and I'm too freaking tired of fighting the same battle over and over.

Thanks. I just needed to type that.

[musette_sf]

1. I'm with you

The older I get, the more I resent the supposed "inclusive" MAN, MEN and MANKIND.

I believe that there isn't a man in the world who would be "okay" with the opposite being the case.

[Cerridwen]

3. Thanks, musette_sf.

I spent a couple of hours trying to get some of the "men" (as defined by their profiles) to take a look at their total disregard for women and our realities and life experiences.

I then go to look at a thread in which the OP is talking about how great the good ol' US of A was and it begins with the benefits for "a generation of men," completely ignoring that it was white men, there were no women who directly benefited, nor the cost paid by non-white men and all women in order to benefit those white men of a particular social status. /mini-rant

Anyway, I just had to come over here and type out my little vent.

As to your last point, oh yeah, no way the guys would get that use of the word ~womankind~ is all inclusive. In addition, many of them would probably feel they'd been insulted to be called woman, woman-like, etc. Ooooo, I feel another rant coming on. I'll close here.

:hi:

[get the red out]

2. agree

I am sick of this crap too.

[Cerridwen]

4. I took several days and clicked around and read feminist sites.

What a relief it was to read boards and blogs in which feminist was the default setting and the concept of political correctness was accepted and practiced. The concept of privileged status was pointed out when it occurred and the person of privilege responded with an apology and a promise to examine said privileged state and how it might have contributed to their misunderstanding of an issue. Sexist jerks of either sex were invited to learn about what was being discussed or shut up and leave; some were banned. There was no constant influx of demeaning and ridiculing posts trying to deny a person's experiences and most tried to understand and work within the framework of intersecting privileges.

Such a relief. I think I need to spend more time at those sites and less time here, sad to say. Though I'm not surprised, I am disheartened that feminism is still a controversial subject with so many Democrats.

[get the red out]

5. That sounds wonderful

I wish feminism were more a part of the outlook here. I see often where someone else thinks there are many rights that trump human rights for women on DU. It is always disturbing and to be honest these people often give liberalism a bad name by doing so.

Being a southerner I am really still learning how to express my heart felt feminist beliefs. Feminism isn't exactly applauded here, and sometimes living in the south (probably everywhere) you can feel the sexism seeping through even just a tone of voice, the tone that tries to make a 6 year old girl out of this 45 year old woman. Oh, I do hate that! Religious men use this method.

[seabeyond]

13. being a calif living in texas, i cannot tell you how many times last two decades people

say to me

you arent from around here are you.... lol lol

nope

i dont need applause. but i do need to own who i am.

[bliss_eternal]

7. good stuff in the feminist blogosphere....

...:hi:

it's nice to know where to go, when a woman takes a hit in the media. i read and spend far less time here than i used to.

i'm thankful for the feminist blogs, as the minority ones are frequently as bad (in regard to women).
too many "people of color" blogs and sites corrupted w/the same sort of "blame the woman" crap i see here (from just as many women as men). :( ---heavy sigh----

i understand why that's the case, and where it comes from(starts w/a capital "p"). but it still bothers me and makes me sad.

[seabeyond]

11. talking to son yesterday. 15, in a convienent store and two guys cussing, talking tits, much worse

he says. didnt tell me all they were saying, but was about being crude and can be, with two female cashiers waiting on them. son told me how mad it makes him, told cashier the guys were trash...

but i told son. here i am in 2010. i never thought females would be sittin where we are today.

it totally knoks me on my ass the huge step back women have taken the last decade.

[redqueen]

6. I was talking to my daughters about that this morning.

The subject came up when I relayed this saying: 'early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise'... they of course bristled at the 'men' part.

I explained that the male has been the default gender in language but that it's not used so often these days. They corrected me.

*sigh*

[ismnotwasm]

8. It's bullshit, for sure

Of course then I think, who starts the wars? Who rapes? Who is evidently violence prone? Who runs, by majority or force, every country in the world? The 'Male' as the standard default viewpoint permeates everything we learn and every viewpoint we develop. Biology, anthropology, psychology, philosophy, history, monetary and economic systems, governmental systems on and on. Especially Religious systems, the root, perhaps, of it all. Feminism, almost by definition, has the potential to open minds and truly free thought and thus give hope for the future than any other ideology that's ever existed. It gets no credit of course. Quite the opposite.

Point that out, and you get the classism argument back, which has it's own very real validity, but not when looking strictly at gender division. More and more this male as the default standard, is simply it's own pathology.

[redqueen]

9. You reminded me of this quote:

The world has never yet seen a truly great and virtuous nation because in the degradation of woman the very fountains of life are poisoned at their source. ~Lucretia Mott

[CrispyQ]

10. I had two incidents that turned me off of religion forever.

The first was when I was 9, in a Sunday school class. The second one happened when I was about 14 & going through 'confirmation.' I never understood what 'confirmation' was about, but a group of kids, all about my age, would meet every Saturday for class time with the church minister. At one point I asked him about "God the father, God the son." I said, "Years ago in Sunday school, we were told that God has no gender - God is neither male nor female. Yet we constantly refer to God in the masculine. Why isn't there a special pronoun for God?" The minister scoffed at my concern, & joined in when the class laughed at me. I didn't really care about being laughed at, because I felt that they were stupid to not see why it's an issue. It was the last nail in the coffin for me & religion & God.

[femrap]

12. Since Kraft was in the news lately

regarding its bid for Cadbury, I learned that Kraft has a woman 'chairman.' :wtf:

And now such words as 'actress' are gone. 'Heroine.'

And if I hear myself referred to as a 'girl,' I come back and call the dude a 'boy.' Geez.

[vim876]

14. I went to...

the Kennedy Space Center recently, and their tour videos STILL use the word "mankind." Grr.