Iraqi Women's Rights in Danger

[alarcojon]

I thought folks here would be interested in this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1650338

My wife received the e-mail from Yannar Mohammed in post # 4. She was to come and speak at our school but the INS made it too difficult for her.

[alarcojon]

1. Keep Iraqi women's struggle for their rights in the spotlight

Another discussion on the subject, with a link to a BBC article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1652319

[Ripley]

2. Saw that, responded.

I see the threads keep sinking. Obviously Iraqi women's rights appeal to DUers in the same way American women's rights appeal to DUers.

Not much.

[alarcojon]

3. Yes, saw your response

Thanks. I know American women have their hands full right now, with Roberts et al, but the international community needs to help prevent Iraqi women from taking a giant step backwards, all in the name of Bush's poorly run, barely thought out war on terra.

[tnlefty]

5. Not necessarily. It just makes me want to cry.

I think most of us with some sense knew this was going to happen. I got into a terrible fight with my mother about this very thing prior to the invasion. I tried to tell her that even though Saddam was bad, women in Iraq had rights that women of other Arab nations don't have, basically because he kept the fundamentalists out of the part of Iraq that he controlled.

I don't ignore it, I just sometimes can't seem to respond to the threads. All of it just makes me sick.

[eridani]

4. The fact of the matter is that we can do jackshit about it

We can't put the genie back into the bottle, and a state of war always, always leaves women screwed. Saddam and the Shah and the Soviets in Afghanistan have unequivocally demonstrated that war and mass murder do not really promote secularism and women's rights.

[Heddi]

6. Completely spot on

We shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Now that we're there, we still shouldn't be there

We need to leave immediately.

but people say "oh! but we'll leave the country in CHAOS! WARLORDS WILL TAKE OVER"

uh, the country was in chaos the day we stepped foot in there. We are the warloards, and any puppets we prop into power will be equally evil.

To leave now is the honorable thing to do. Let the UN & humanitarian aid come in and fix our fucked-up mess.

These people have no power, no water, no schools, no security. Their artifacts and museums and libraries were looted. Their historical and archaelogical sites are destroyed. Their history was erased better than Big Brother could have EVER hoped.

The chaos is only there because our presence fosters it and creates it. People don't like being searched as they go to and from the store. People don't like it when entire members of a wedding party are "accidentally" vaporized by our not-too-smart bombs.

People like stability. We have removed every inch of stability they've had, and it will take GENERATIONS to return their country to a habitable place. And that's ONLY if we don't allow puppet regimes to allow US to rule, by proxy.

We don't need permanent military bases there. We don't need permanent military presence. We need to allow these people to get their shit together and rebuild their country WITH OUR FINANCES>

We destroyed everything, but feel that Iraqi's should be responsible for the rebuilding of Iraq---kind if like, I come to your house, shit on your couch, then telll you it's your responsiblity to clean it up.

We are a blight on this planet. I am ashamed of being American. I like that at least I have the ability to fake being Canadian by accent....