Men women space and movement

[undergroundpanther]

Check this thread out..

It's about how men and women differ in how they relate to space..
Check out the discussion, responses...interesting
Ironic this thread came up after I just wrote obesity beauty and lies post where I said something about women in this culture are not allowed to take up space.Encouraged to be lesser in every sense of the word.

I find it is true about the differences of movement and space with gender..I find when I walk with confidence,and sureness and spread myself out(lordly like) and relax..If I hold my head up and make eye contact first,I get called sir,every time regardless of my clothes.It's strange.My appearance is more androgynous so I get sirred and maamed both,even by kids.But when I walk proud I get sirred..when I am looking pensive,lost in my own head and I am contracted in how I sit and I don't make direct eye contact first,I get Maamed.Hmmm...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4183510

[efhmc]

1. That wasa a very interesting thread. Thanks.

[Eloriel]

2. That did get interesting

And certainly gave me some ideas for my own handling of space issues vis a vis men. I'm SURE I yield on occasions when I needn't. Won't it be interesting to stop?

It's been my observation that most men are both completely unaware the extent to which they dominate the space around them -- including MORE space than they actually need or are entitled to (for example, will slop over into your space if given half a chance) -- and not particularly eager to give up that little bit of male privilege either.

I've actually sat in folding chairs in a circle before --a nd not all that close, either -- and had to contend with the guy next to me's feet and legs in front of MY chair!! And I'm always just amazed with how men behave on elevators. They seem to think that they "own" all the space they can see. You will be crunched up against the back wall, and they'll crowd you more while availing themselves of several feet in front of them to the front of the car. Utterly amazing. They can do that kind of thing in open but somewhat crowded space as well. It can be downright infuriating.

My own husband, who isn't really all that "macho" and certainly not much of a sexist (else he wouldn't be my husband!), nevertheless has a bit of trouble getting the hell out of the way and yielding space to share when I walk up to him, say in the kitchen or some place. Invariably, he has his right foot stuck out to the side, and will NOT move it on his own, not until prompted. It's not even conscious, but I sure as hell get sick of it. He'll do this even when he's asked me to come over.

He's also miserable at showing me things, and keeps his own hand in the way. He'll have a piece of paper, hold it nicely in front of HIS face, point at something on the page with his hand totally in the way of MY line of vision, and wonder why I can't see what he's talking about. I don't believe I'll ever cure of him of this in my lifetime. I don't know if this is a "male" thing, I only know how infuriating it is, not to mention stupid. WHenever I'm showing anyone anything, I'm bending over backwards to make sure THEIR view is clear. Both of these just annoy the hell out of me, especially because he's unteachable on the subject.