Simple Poll: Does a female ever have responsibility for being raped

[Heddi]

No maybe, no "depends on the situation"

yes or no

Does a female ever bear responsibility for being raped?

I say "female" because I do not want this narrowed by:

age
socioeconomic status
occupation
sexual orientation
relationship status

nothing.

There are no caveats to this answer. Simple yes or no.

Does a female ever bear responsibility for being raped?

I ask because there seems to be some disagreement within this progressive community as to whether or not females should be held responsible (in any way, no matter how minor or major)for her rape.

[geniph]

1. Saying "yes" to this question would imply

that a rapist is unable, for some reason caused by the victim, to control his wish to rape. That's just crap. Rape isn't an autonomous response. I don't care WHAT the victim is doing. An attacker still CHOOSES to attack.

There are things a victim can do to (somewhat) reduce their risk of being attacked. But it is still not the victim's responsibility to make sure they are not raped!

[ismnotwasm]

2. Nope

Those arguments were brought out by a well publicized rape accusation that involved an exotic dancer. There are brought out every time a women "places herself in jeopardy" from drinking to much to jogging early in the morning. They completely ignore decades of rape and sexual assault studies, rape prevention programs, including programs to reduce recidivism of the rapist. They propagate common rape myths, ignore the sexual history involving women and sexual rights.
And like said above, they absolve the rapist, whose intent was rape in the first place, while women- or men- or children- or babies- do NOT choose to get raped, no matter what the circumstances, by definition.

These arguments are also a deadly insult to males, because the implication is that men cannot control themselves.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. Excellent point about being insulting to men

The patriarchy does the real "male bashing" IMHO.

[noamnety]

3. nobody bears responsibility for being a victim of violence

only exception being if you attack someone and they react with violence in self-defense. Can't think of a scenario in which you'd rape a person in self-defense, though.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

4. Rapists use the "I was overcome with lust" excuse,

even if the woman is wearing a burqa and has let her wrist show.

[geniph]

5. If we were to posit that rape is a result of the VICTIM's actions

(rather than the rapist's mindset), then that ignores the fact that people are raped at home in their own beds by strangers who have never seen them before. People who did everything "right" still get raped. Infants get raped. And, as Lydia pointed out, even in cultures where women are required to be covered head to toe and never leave home without an escort, rape still happens.

And the rapists still use the "I was tempted" excuse. And it's still bullshit.

[ThomCat]

17. And if the woman defends herself

she can sometimes be convicted for it. :grr:

Because it would be a horrible shame if some rapist got hurt while trying to torture someone.
:eyes:

[bloom]

6. It's nice to peek

at that poll and see that nobody has voted "yes" yet. 31 for "no".

[jukes]

7. 1 odd "yes"

but the voter doesn't have the courage to defend his/her opinion.

prbly a witless troll tee-heeing at disruption of our discussion.

[BlueIris]

8. Yeah, Mr./Ms. "Yes"? Feel free to defend your vote, there.

If you can obey the rules, you're allowed to post. Notice, I wrote "if," though. We'd all like to read your justification for your position.

[BlueIris]

9. Woah, and somehow another "yes" has arived. I'm still waiting

for one of you to explain your views. I guess I shouldn't be shocked by your reticence, however. I'm sure it's hard for you to find the right words.

[JI7]

10. who the fuck voted yet ?

hoping it's a freeper or someone mistakenly voted for the wrong choice.

[BlueIris]

12. Hey, J17. That's what we'd like to know.

Go ahead and speak up, "Yes" votes.

[mzteris]

13. they're witless cowards. n/t

[WildClarySage]

14. I voted no but only because there was no box for

abso-fucking-lutely not never no way uh-huh nope.

[Marie26]

15. No, of course

I'm not sure you'll find many yes votes in this forum.

[benevolent dictator]

16. Not ones who'll admit to it anyway... nt.