A big THANK YOU to Cerridwen

[Solly Mack]

Thank you for today. I greatly enjoyed your comments in the GD thread on rape/military.

[Cerridwen]

1. Ack! I just this minute saw this thread.

You are most welcome and THANK YOU for your hard work in that thread. Your comments were great and provided me with some good ideas for mine.

I've been catching up on reading books rather than reading and posting at DU or I would have seen this sooner.

I'm not sure how many minds we changed over in that thread, but we gave 'em one helluva run for their money.

We make a good team. :D

Now, if I could just find someone who'd make that ad I thought of. Also a cartoonist as I have a great story idea with no, repeat, no drawing skills whatever. I drew it using stick figures! :rofl: They kinda detract from the story!

Here's to us, we done good.

:toast:

:yourock:

[Solly Mack]

9. They did show a new infomercial recently

and the "I should have locked my doors" have not been seen in over a week. True! Not sure if they are airing them in other areas, but in my area they aren't showing them any longer.

The new one says, "No means NO. It's that simple. Doesn't matter if you've been intimate before. Doesn't matter if you're dating. No means NO. Period"

My husband and I both just looked at each other once it aired.We had noticed the other ones were gone, and after seeing the new one, wondered if someone at AFN was reading DU. It was probably the letters that helped - but we still wondered.

There really does need to be infomercials like you suggested.

Thank you, again! :toast:

[ThomCat]

2. Can you provide a link to that thread?

I can't find it.

[Cerridwen]

3. It's from several days ago and has been archived

but here ya go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1701500

[ismnotwasm]

4. Wow

I missed that one too. It didn't take long for the designated blame-the-woman piss-poor wanna be philosophizer to show did it?

And I agree you all did a very good job

Those commercials are almost-- unfortunately not quite, beyond belief.

[bliss_eternal]

5. It doesn't take long at all...

...I wonder sometimes if they just hang out on the boards, waiting fot those kind of threads so they can spew their special kind of comments. :eyes: I was thrilled to find out that at least one of the guys that was a big (negative) poster in the Duke threads has since been tombstoned. :applause: I hate to take pleasure in another's pain, but I was sincerely happy to see he's gone, at least in that incarnation.

[Cerridwen]

6. What usually catches my eye about those types of posts,

is the amount of time they appear to have spent co-ordinating their justifications. It's kind of eerie to think someone might spend time thinking of ways to justify imprisoning women "for their own safety". Or maybe it's just long time experience learning the "lessons" of the authoritarian/dominator/patriarchal/hierarchical woman fearing/hating society.

Oh, well, at least that thread didn't have a bunch of women coming in out of the woodwork adding to their justifications.

[ThomCat]

7. Thank you.

I'll have to go back later to do more than just skim it. But even at a glance it looks like a disturbing thread.

[Cerridwen]

8. Just the same old crap

A buncha guys coming in to piss all over the thread.

It reminds me of watching male dogs marking their property; first one marks, then the next, then the first again, then the next. Pretty soon it's one smelly post.

[geniph]

10. It never fails to amaze me

that some people - usually men, but a good number of women too - seem to think that if a rape victim had just done this or that, or not done this or that, it wouldn't have happened. If she'd just a) locked her door, b) worn a burkha, c) gone to church that Sunday, d) not worn high heels, e) carried a gun, f) not been born into that family - then all would have been well.

Goddammit. People, rapes happen to INFANTS. They happen in countries where the women are sequestered away from men in lifelong isolation. They happen to women (supposedly) safe in their own locked homes, in their own beds.

Stop concentrating on what the VICTIM did or did not do. Is that what we do for murder victims, too? Do we say, well, if he hadn't been wearing that shirt, driving that car, living in that neighborhood, he wouldn't have been shot by strangers? No, we look at the CRIMINAL's actions and try, as a society, to prevent them from happening. Why is rape different? Why is rape the crime the VICTIM is ashamed of, not the CRIMINAL?

I've had my home broken into and things stolen. No one ran around second-guessing which types of locks I had or the things I owned or the hours I was home - they blamed the CRIMINAL for committing a CRIME. And I wasn't made to feel shame for having been a victim of a crime. The onus was on the stupid dickhead that committed the crime.

Why is rape the one crime that is always considered somehow the victim's fault, even when she was "safe" in her own bed?!

:mad:

[Greyhound]

11. Belated thank you.

Keep fighting the good fight. :hug: