YOY
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Sat Apr-08-06 06:35 PM
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| Why is it that the only calls I ever get are 100% commission sales? |
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Seriously, I have a masters and speak several languages. I have been out of work and underemployed for 2 damn years. Why is it that I only get calls from these buzzards who have no idea who the hell I am let alone a name and a phone number?
Who wants to work 100% commission sales selling 'financial services' or morgages or life insurance? You don't make any money and if you happen to be one of the few people who are prone to having good sales skills then you could make a hell of alot more money in other sectors. Why do the only calls I get have to be these parasites???
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Sun Apr-09-06 03:04 PM
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| 1. That's the nature of the beast... |
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Everyone has something that's not going to sell itself. I even have a box full of junk that I'd pay someone 10% if they could somehow sell it. You're right, these jobs are a joke.
The world it saturated with people who have no skills who resort to making money using methods like this. Unfortunately becoming more educated means limiting our circle of friends. The best way to find a job is to get involved with a trade organization, and find out about employment opportunities by networking. If that's not possible, check out smaller job sites and services, like from local community colleges. High profile job sites on the internet are saturated with spam postings that will waste your time.
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Sun Apr-09-06 04:23 PM
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| 2. I've been networking for 2 years and it hasn't done much good either |
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It has led to a few interviews though. Those were mostly a year ago. The last decent interview I had was 3 months ago and that was a craigslist application.
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Mon Apr-10-06 12:18 AM
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| 3. So what kind of sales of job are you looking for? |
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Personally, I like commission sales. The corporate world and I don't get along well.
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Mon Apr-10-06 02:11 PM
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| 4. I have no interest in sales whatsoever |
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I am not a salesman. I have never been. I have tried to be and cannot. That is why it is so annoying.
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Mon Apr-10-06 02:50 PM
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| 5. Personally, I had to lower my expectations to get my job... |
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I'm strange, so please bear with my little story...
I recently started out in I.T., which of course is notoriously difficult to find employment in, so I ended up settling for a rate which a lot of high school graduates (and dropouts) would turn down. I got a decent raise the first year, but nothing the second year. At this point I have established a launch pad, so to speak. At least I have a job in my field.
Before this I worked at temp jobs outside my field and was finally working on a loading dock. Yes, I was a guy with a Master's Degree working on a loading dock. (Actually driving a forklift is fun) Anyway, a couple of the things I had done (some promo sales and labor) apparently either sparked interest or just made the person hiring me feel some empathy.
Now I'm trying to escape the low paying 9 to 5, by trying to start my own business, and I think that if I had the opportunity to hire someone, in these harsh times, if I had a choice between 20 equally qualified people, I would probably hire the person who was currently doing the hardest work just to get by, like I was doing on a loading dock. Maybe that's why I got hired here, who knows.
So I'm wondering if you insist on holding out for a good high level job, or if you are willing to go back to square one like I did?
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Mon Apr-10-06 02:58 PM
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| 6. I've been working since I was 16 and am 31 now |
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Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 02:59 PM by YOY
I worked full-time in college while everyone else partied their asses off.
I worked part-time in grad school while everyone else was 'networking' (grown up partying)
I have walked through human shit in cleaning sewers.
I have cut lawns
I have waited tables
I have worked retail
I have gotten the lazy-ass-baby-boomer-with-a-cushy-Peter-Pan-job boss a thousand coffees.
I have been at square one and will not go one step back. Temping is the next step if anything.
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Mon Apr-10-06 03:29 PM
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Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 03:57 PM by djohnson
I like your spirit. I'm a little older, just turned 37, but otherwise pretty similar in that I worked since 16 and also worked while going to college.
I also have a similar dislike of lucky smug suburbanites that I'm surround by here who had a lot of advantages that I never had.
Trust me I'm as pissed off as you. At this point the years of low pay ultimately led to being in situation where my credit is now ruined, so now that my wife and I are barely making enough to afford a house payment, we would never be accepted for a home loan. I truly feel like we have been negated from society and it pisses me off.
Being in this situation can be traumatizing.
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Mon Apr-10-06 03:57 PM
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| 8. No, I'm not OK but I'll live |
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The wife is pregnant and I am pulling my hair out. I want to have a family and I want for her to be happy, but this is killing me. I am not looking for the dreamjob, but just someplace that I am not sinking in a mire of debt.
Thanks for the concern though! B-) Yeah, my credit score is pretty wack right about now too!
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Mon Apr-10-06 04:07 PM
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| 9. WHAT do you want to do? |
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Tue Apr-11-06 07:46 AM
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| 11. International Project Management from the Target Country End |
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However most of the positions to get there are rediculously seeking incredible amounts of experience. Nobody is offering that experience and a small group of professional are cycled through those positions. The next generation is expected to work domestically until they have accumulated enough secretary experience.
Frankly to be blatantly honest, I would take anything! You're not supposed to say that, but it is that truth.
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Tue Apr-18-06 12:40 PM
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| 12. That's got to be in demand |
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Not to mention all the outsourcing.... If you are willing to live in another country where you can speak that language, I would think that a lot of businesses would be interested. In particular, you should be able to manage support technicians for a product that is owned by an American company. If my company was already up and running I'd hire you to expand my business overseas.
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Mon Apr-10-06 04:08 PM
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Take care of that wife of yours. I have to run now, but good luck with everything. I have a feeling everything will be ok.
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