butterfly77
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:49 AM
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What is the main stream of america? |
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I have been switching channels all morning and I have heard Lieberman and fox especially saying that the democratic party was wrong and now are far from the mainstream of america and said by having Jesse Jackson and Sharpton on stage this was sending the wrong message. I would like to know why if certain blacks are present this means that this doesn't represent the mainstream of america, and lieberman has been throwing out Maxine waters name everytime he gives a speech.If Barack Obama or the acceptable blacks were on stage, I wonder what would be the talking point then.
Don't blacks want what all americans want or are blacks not americans too. Blacks want jobs, healthcare, they fight wars, they care about their children just like all americans, this is another way to divide democrats as far as I am concerned.
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:52 AM
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:09 AM
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8. I guess mainstream would be an |
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republican on stage with Ann coulter, rush limbaugh, Bill o'lielly, Hannity, Newt Gingrich, Pat Robertson, and others of their ilk that would be mainstream. I believe that those who are suppose to be in charge don't know who the mainstream of america is and if the REAL mainstream would vote they sure in the hell would find out. I believe that due to high gas prices and other problems some will begin to vote again while others have just dropped out of the system.
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:53 AM
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check out www.pollingreport.com
that shows what the majority (and plurality/minority) of people in the USA think on all sorts of issue
know where people stand, and its easy to identify the mainstream
clearly, sharpton and jackson do not represent the mainstream. neither could garner even a modicum of votes in their political campaigns
barak is much more mainstream. and infinitely more respectable imo
i love sharpton in that he is searingly intelligent, very very funny, has a razor sharp wit, and brings a great voice to any debate
but he is clearly not mainstream
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:58 AM
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6. So is that suppose to mean that he shouldn' t have been on stage |
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and are voters that stupid to not know that the democrats are SUPPOSE to represent everyone.
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:26 AM
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11. no political party represents everyone |
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because by representing everyone, they would represent nobody
i think that having sharpton and jackson on stage right behind you makes a statement. that's the statement lamont chose to make. and that's the statement lieberman called him on
i do agree that sharpton does not represent the mainstream
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:31 AM
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were any on stage last night, who should have been there. Who do democrats represent then just white middle class?
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:34 AM
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i said that exact opposite
but sharpton and jackson are no more the mainstream than buchanan is
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:53 AM
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16. Well then why did he say it ... |
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what point was he trying to get across.
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:49 PM
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18. Obama is mainstream?! Don't make me laugh. The dude's a DINO. |
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:rofl:
Obama's a DLCer, just like Joe, just like sHillary and way to many dems in office. All of em need to be kicked to the curb big time! :mad:
The mainstream is far more left than what ANYONE in D.C. will ever admit or that the corporate media whores will ever DARE to admit because if they did, then their whole "game" of pulling the country as far right as possible is shot and exposed for the bullshit and lies it is! :grr:
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Wed Aug-09-06 06:54 PM
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I am trying to identify who lieberman is claiming to be mainstream. You are right about the bushit.
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:54 AM
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3. Lieberman loves bashing Democrats |
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:54 AM
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4. Well, if the mainstream of America is reflective of last night's vote... |
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then why do 40% of Americans still support the most disastrous, incompetent President in history? Unless of course there is something to this election-stealing stuff, which even many Dems call a conspiracy theory.
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:20 PM
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17. election stealing no conspiracy.... |
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:51 PM
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19. 2 STOLEN ELECTIONS is hardly support for the reTHUGS. |
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Wed Aug-09-06 06:59 PM
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25. 2 stolen that we know of... |
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we don't know how many are stolen in most states, for senators, congressmen, mayors, governors etc...
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:55 AM
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5. Joe and the Media are so far to the right |
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That they can't even see the mainstream anymore. We are the Mainstream. We are the 70%+ that make up the polls hating the direction of our country, disagreeing with this war and this President and wanting this Congress out.
Seems to me the media and the right wingers are in for a hell of a wakeup call this November and in 2008.
Then maybe once we will be represented on television in a fair light... because their ratings will depend on it.
I live in Milwaukee where we vote 70% Democratic yet all the media is 100% right wing. WISN and WTMJ own radio and TV outlets (as well as the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel) throughout the state and spew right wing hate speech and propaganda... We have two Sinclair owned stations, one that aired that fake news show News Central and another that is going to become MyTV (controlled by Roger Ailes). We don't have a single liberal television outlet or an Air America station.
Where are the stations that represent us... the majority? There are none.
There will be soon. We will win and they will have to concede.
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:03 AM
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7. Mainstream America is pro-choce. Mainstream America believes in |
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the separation of church and state.
Mainstream America wants Universal Health Care.
Mainstream America is anti-censorship and pro-First Amendment.
Mainstream America doesn't think we should spend $40 Billion a year trying to keep people from smoking pot. Mainstream America wants the drug war to end.
Mainstream America wants the government out of their bedrooms, their bloodstreams, and their personal, end-of-life decisions.
Mainstream America thinks the war in Iraq was a mistake, and that it's time to bring the troops home.
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:11 AM
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9. Mainstream is not represented ... |
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by one race or nationality.
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:13 AM
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10. The question was "what is the mainstream of America" |
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Therefore, my answer was "Mainstream America is..."
Other than that, I agree with you.
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Wed Aug-09-06 01:42 PM
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23. Perhaps, but they sure don't vote that way! |
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Because even 20% support for these sub-humans is far too high!
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:31 AM
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The CBC was leading every fight during the Bush years. While Joe was kissing Bush and endorsing his policies, it was the African Americans in Congress that were in the front lines fighting these same policies.
I find it despicable for Joe to go the same path as Bush - dividing people by race and bashing people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Maxine Waters.
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Wed Aug-09-06 11:33 AM
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:55 PM
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21. They are working overtime to silence the speakers of TRUTH. |
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We can't let them get away with it-the BASTARDS! :grr:
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:53 PM
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20. America's stream is weak. It happens as we age. |
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Wed Aug-09-06 07:45 PM
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26. Well aim your stream .... |
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at your commander and thief.
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Wed Aug-09-06 12:56 PM
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22. Mainstream is mostly people who are either too tired |
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or too ignorant to care.
They work hard, feel overwhelmed, confused, and hopeless. That doesn't mean they are stupid but they are mostly uninformed because the energy and attention they have is focused elsewhere.
That's not an excuse, just an explaination. They're worrying about their job, their kids, and American Idol and don't feel like their individual contributions make a difference beyond those boundaries.
If that sounds cynical ask yourself what it took to drive 150 million people into that mindset. Today's situation is the result of long term systematic failure.
Most of those who you even see at political rallies are just cheerleading for the moment. 3 days later they are back in front of the TV or trying to dodge the boss at work and that hype they felt a few days before (illusory as it was) is a faded memory.
That's mainstream America. Boxed into a small little work that wakes up at 6, gets to work by 8, home around 6, dinner, some TV then pray you can sleep without some pharmacological aid...rinse and repeat.
All the other stuff sounds nice to them but EXPERIENCE has taught them not to hope or worry too much about it because they have to focus on getting through the day.
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Wed Aug-09-06 07:46 PM
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27. These are the people who... |
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he counts on not to go to the polls or to not pay attention.
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Wed Aug-09-06 10:44 PM
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28. Looking for a "mainstream" in a country of 300 million people is like |
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looking for a family that has 2.43 children.
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