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Fri Nov-25-11 05:25 PM
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Cops severely injure Black Friday shoplifter (graphic) |
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Run time: 02:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE03xl9cUns
Posted on YouTube: November 25, 2011
By YouTube Member: dchadd427
Views on YouTube: 3987
Posted on DU: November 25, 2011
By DU Member: Courtesy Flush
Views on DU: 8115 | The actual assault was not caught on video. The comments from the crowd tell what happened.
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Fri Nov-25-11 05:30 PM
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1. Maybe I am wrong, but.. |
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it is not "shoplifting" until you LEAVE the store without paying... if this guy was slammed down while IN the store, that will be a million dollar lawsuit.
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Fri Nov-25-11 05:35 PM
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2. Not sure where they are |
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They could be in the mall's common area, outside the store. Really can't tell from the video. Regardless, the force was excessive for a perp who posed no threat to anyone.
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Fri Nov-25-11 05:43 PM
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5. They are in the Electronics dept -- crowd started ripping open closed pkgs of mdse |
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He put the DVD? in his waistband to pull his grandson out of the middle of it and was body slammed per another news article on DU.
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Marnie
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Sat Nov-26-11 09:17 AM
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27. But you don't know he was a perp. |
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That's the initial error of judgement these "Peace Keepers" made. He apparently wasn't.
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Fri Nov-25-11 05:39 PM
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3. I'm sure that made some shoppers feel secure and welcome. |
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Really, truly! For once I am not being sarcastic.
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Fri Nov-25-11 09:49 PM
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18. can't imagine Winona Ryder being body slammed |
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you can bet she'd be suing for sure then. I asked my brother who used to work for Sears and Target, with Sears it wasn't shoplifting until you left the store. Then it was a gray area if you left into the mall. Which ended up more common sense first. Theoretically if the grandson was on the floor in front of the games and being stepped on then theres no way he'd be in the mall area. Thus the shoplifting offense is off the table. He must have said something rash considering everyones stepping on his grandson and the cops were more interested in him so the cops took offense and lost their mind. There is no shoplifting here.
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Fri Nov-25-11 05:41 PM
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4. Modern Police tactics beat first ask questions later! |
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Fri Nov-25-11 06:23 PM
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6. Wow, the police really fucked that guy up. nt |
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Fri Nov-25-11 06:23 PM
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7. This is disgusting. These cops are out of control all over this country. Very frightening. |
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And if this is the same person in the other article on DU they had no right to do this. I would sue their sorry asses.
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Fri Nov-25-11 06:47 PM
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8. To protect and serve...the Walmart Corporation. |
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Fri Nov-25-11 06:59 PM
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9. I think shop lifting is trying to leave the store with the merchandise. eom |
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Fri Nov-25-11 07:01 PM
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10. If this is the same incident, I'm not convinced shoplifter is the correct way to identify the victim |
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Fri Nov-25-11 08:38 PM
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16. Sorry. That's the word the witnesses were using. Nt |
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Fri Nov-25-11 07:07 PM
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11. This happens all the time but now people have cameras in their |
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phones, so that's why things will start changing hopefully. Something like this happened to a buddy of mine maybe 20 years ago, when he was stealing fruit from a grocery store.
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Fri Nov-25-11 07:21 PM
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12. Should they have been moving him around like that? |
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Without a neck brace or having been checked by an EMT?
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Fri Nov-25-11 07:43 PM
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14. I noticed their priority the whole time seemed to be getting the cuffs on. |
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Fri Nov-25-11 07:53 PM
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15. Getting the cuffs on and wiping the blood off. |
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So it wouldn't look so bad when help did get there?
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Sat Nov-26-11 09:28 AM
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29. That and cleaning up the mess. |
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This video was taken after one of the cops had seen the blood worked his way through the crowds and gone to a supply closet and gotten a roll paper towels and had worked his way back through the crowd. In that amount of time if they, the pigs, had been on their phones that would have had multiple cop cars on the scene and EMS on the way and maybe already there.
Their primary interest after they had him unconscious was to cuff a guy who was totally limp, clean up the floor and clean up his face. CYA
Disgusting, shameful, and scarey as hell because that can happen to anyone anytime.
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Sat Nov-26-11 09:21 AM
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Fri Nov-25-11 07:22 PM
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13. body-slammed by police while shopping with grandson (link to text story) |
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Fri Nov-25-11 09:26 PM
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17. you definitely have to leave the store to be shoplifting. |
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i had someone at the local walmart tell me that at their store that even included the parking lot.. told me the story of a couple that decided to walk out of the building with a TV in their cart that they hadnt payed for... they watched them the entire time and even called the police when they noticed they werent going to pay..
officers showed up and stayed out of sight and watched them put it into their trunk and try to drive off... they arrested them directly outside the parking lot
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Sat Nov-26-11 01:01 PM
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Yes you have to leave the Building to be shop lifting.. Don't see these Guards tackling anyone who is eating Food they have not payed for yet..
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Fri Nov-25-11 10:21 PM
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19. That's what a police state looks like. |
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And I'm glad my neighbour, an elderly woman, is too sick to have gone shopping with her daughter, an ex-pat Canadian.
That's insanity.
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Fri Nov-25-11 10:35 PM
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Sat Nov-26-11 01:30 AM
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21. I NEVER shop at WalMart, |
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under any circumstances. They have played a big role in turning this country into the shithole that it is.
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Sat Nov-26-11 05:05 AM
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23. Ya Sure? Not even for $2 Waffle Irons?? ** VIDEO ** |
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If Only They Fought As Hard For Health Care vs $2 Waffle Irons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf1QahyOccQ
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Sat Nov-26-11 03:44 PM
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37. Man, that is just nuts. I had to chuckle at the hefty blonde who's pants were falling off |
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exposing some weapons-grade ass crack.
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Sat Nov-26-11 01:53 AM
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There has to be surveilance in the mall, but there aren't many excuses for that sort of thing.
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Sat Nov-26-11 08:18 AM
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24. where the fuck are the EMT's |
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all these people with cell phones, did anyone call 911?
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Sat Nov-26-11 08:28 AM
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...he was stuffing handfuls of merchandise into a duffel bag and loudly announcing to everyone present, "I'm gonna steal this here stuff!", tackling him/body slamming him onto the concrete floor was unnecessary.
It was an older, not very large guy there with his grandson.
Large pool of blood under his head there. Nice job, assholes.
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Sat Nov-26-11 09:13 AM
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26. Firstly. Why was it necessary to ue this kind of force against |
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Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 09:15 AM by Marnie
a person who they presumed was committing a non violent, non threatening crime?
Secondly, where was the first aide training? They were drowning the man in his own blood.
Thirdly,since he probably also had a concussion (Severe limpness would seem to be a pretty obvious hint.), their yanking him around like that definitely made it worse.
Fourthly who was calling 911? Emergency vehicles respond extremely quickly, and in large numbers to potential dangers in situations where there are lots of people who might be injured.
Fifthly, where were store management and store employees? Does that store not have coded alerts to call out to their staff?
Fifthly who was making sure this man's grandson wasn't abducted during the confusion they created?
These monkeys in uniform did just about everything wrong that could possibly be done wrong.
So do we all feel safer being protected by ill trained steroid crazed zoo escapees just because their shirts say "Police?"
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Sat Nov-26-11 10:51 AM
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30. To call this man a shoplifter before adjudication is libelous. |
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Sat Nov-26-11 11:16 AM
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31. Glad to see the people in the crowd giving the thugcops shit |
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Sat Nov-26-11 03:49 PM
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38. I was thinking the same thing NT |
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Sat Nov-26-11 12:16 PM
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32. Two words: Maricopa County! eom |
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Sat Nov-26-11 02:00 PM
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34. The guy had $600 worth of merchandise in his cart |
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and he's going to shoplift a video game? This is a classic case of a cop making a mistake, and then going as far as necessary to avoid having to admit it.
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Sat Nov-26-11 02:13 PM
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and you go free.....steal a couple bucks, and you get body slammed. Bastards......
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Sat Nov-26-11 02:27 PM
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36. "They also said in-store security cameras failed to capture skirmish." |
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Sat Nov-26-11 04:38 PM
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39. Videos that inciminate the officers always seem to disappear... |
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That happened to me a few years back after a traffic stop. The officer said everything was recorded by the onboard video camera. A few days later I made a Public Records Act request for the video. They said the recorder was malfuncting that day and there was no video. It became my word against the officer's in court. The judge said we were both credible, but he "had to" believe the officer because otherwise "the whole system" would fall apart.
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Sat Nov-26-11 05:06 PM
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40. He's not a shoplifter |
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And I hope he sues the shit out of Wal-Mart. From the story, they said he put the game in his waist to help his grand kid. He couldn't set it down, the mob would have taken it. Shoplifting includes leaving the store first.
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Sun Nov-27-11 02:18 AM
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41. he wasn't shop lifting, he was trying to pick up his trampled grandson. NT |
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