Reality Countdown to the Vote Thread

[goclark]

Please keep kicked as we update.

Thanks - I am so nervous I can't watch.

[quiet.american]

1. Kicking. Hang in there, goclark - Yes We Can. Especially if true that the Stupak bloc is a yes. nt

[goclark]

51. Just heard that Stupak is a yes!!!!!!

1:31 PM PST

[quiet.american]

54. Bump!

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[POAS]

2. I'm going to split screen NCAA and Cspan n/t

[Cha]

3. Ah, technology~

I'm not watching either..I'd rather get updates from BOGers.:)

[POAS]

4. Here's a first report

Dems using recorded votes on non-controversial bills to stall as all members assemble,

Reps tried to ask a Parliamentary inquiry as to why a 15 minute vote was held open for 25 minutes, overruled as not a proper parliamentary inquiry.

Like they have room to talk, remember when they held a vote open almost all night to twist arms.

[POAS]

8. 2nd update

Gonzaga 55 Syracuse 81 w/ 5 minutes to go.

[POAS]

14. Final 87-65 Syracuse n/t

[quiet.american]

5. "The Chair will not entertain any further inquiries." PERIOD. Gavel. Go, Dems, go.

Did anyone else just see that exchange where some GOP weasel wanted to know why the previous vote took 25 minutes (stalling, obstructing), and the Chair looked at him like he was stupid and said, ""The Chair will not entertain any further inquiries," then announced the next vote.

This is the way to go. The GOP has all sorts of plans to show their ass today (excuse my language, especially on a Sunday); do they remember they held their unfunded Medicare Part D vote open for THREEE HOURS in order to arm-twist votes?

Go, Chair, go!

[POAS]

6. You would think that they would know how to

properly state a parliamentary inquiry by now.

[quiet.american]

10. Hello! nt

[POAS]

7. Disturbance in the gallery.

Sargent at Arms ordered to remove those responsible.

[quiet.american]

9. Excellent. Dems are not playing that shite today. nt

[goclark]

11. Rahm must be in charge

:bounce:

They hate him so much but that Bull Dog on our side must be orchestrating the whole thing -- keep it coming !

:bounce: thanks for the kicks!

[POAS]

12. Reading and calling for a vote on

Rules for today's debate, consideration and votes.

[POAS]

13. Rep Ryan making a point of order against the rule.

20 minutes of debate on point of order.

Edited to change time from 10 to 20 minutes.

[POAS]

15. Ryan not

arguing the merits of his "point of order" but rather rehashing Rep. talking points against the bill.

[goclark]

16. Where are we now?

[POAS]

17. voting on point of order 8 minutes left

[goclark]

18. I just passed my tv ~ Rethug was saying "this wouldn't pass

because the votes aren't there."

What is the real status of the Bill ~ please say it is positive.

[POAS]

19. That's a replay from this morning

The same guy defended calling out the N word and the f word in the halls on Congress.

When confronted by the fact the Bishops, Nuns and Catholic hospitals urge passage of the bill he says that there are many groups that CALL themselves Catholic BUT are really left leaning organizations.

[POAS]

20. Most sources say the Dems have the votes to pass

[POAS]

21. So far 10 dems voting

with Reps on point of order

current count 199 to 175 against PofO

[POAS]

23. Final vote on Point of order

228 Yes 195 No the Point fails and the house moves to consider the rules.

19 Dems voted with Reps

[grantcart]

22. Vote? They are voting on something today?

Good I like a good vote watch.


What are we looking at.

[POAS]

24. NCAA

[get the red out]

62. I prefer NCAA

I just keep coming back to this thread to see what is happening on the vote. I get so upset over Republicans. They all snarl with arrogance and glow with stupidity.

[POAS]

25. ANother Point of order, Rep Issa this time.

[POAS]

26. Issa: "An earmark is tantamount to a bribe"

[POAS]

27. Reps trying to get a

discussion in a 15 second session.

[POAS]

29. Point of Order on top of the point of order

and parliament inquiry on top of those.

[RoyGBiv]

28. Dearlord ...

This is insane. Just insane.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

30. what's happening??

Im in the car

[RoyGBiv]

31. Parliamentary questions ...

Republicans are asking questions to which they already know the answers, playing word games, spending 5 minutes grilling the speaker over whether a rep was allowed to use all of his ten seconds or not.

Nuts.

OnEdit: I think I figured it out. The Repubs are confused and think this is the NCAA tournament. They're trying to get time put back on the clock after a flubbed in-bound pass. Or something.

And the ref is having none of it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

32. Thanks so much

I wish I could watch it.

[RoyGBiv]

34. Long drive?

If not, and if the Repubs manage to keep this up, you'll be able to get home, make a sandwich, and watch a movie before anything gets done.

BTW, if you haven't seen it from other threads, the Repubs were actually encouraging disruptors in the gallery. They started shouting, and a few Repubs egged them on even as the disruptors were being escorted out of the building.

Then three other Repubs hung a sign of some sort from a balcony inciting a crowd outside gathered for a "Kill the Bill" rally.

[POAS]

35. and one that said "Don't tread on me" n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

39. Ugh

Thanks for the updates. Im on my way to Merrilville IN so Ill be in the car for 40 or so

[RoyGBiv]

42. The final vote won't be for awhile ...

This is all procedural at the moment.

[POAS]

33. Really getting argumentative now

[RoyGBiv]

36. Speakers sounds like he's about to open a can ...

Now they're asking "parliamentary inquiries" that aren't.

[POAS]

37. Finally getting to the vote on the latest point of order

[POAS]

38. Just posted in GD:P

Stupak presser at 4 PM

[RoyGBiv]

41. CSPAN announcing WH deal with Stupak ...

So, we'll see.

[RoyGBiv]

40. I love Jesse Jackson, Jr. ...

...who is currently chairing the House. He laid down the law as best as he possibly could.

Off the current topic, I got into an e-mail exchange with him many years ago when he was a freshman. He has a deep interest in history and had run across a website I'd just opened dealing with Confederate general James Longstreet. (Longstreet, R.E. Lee's second in command, was notable for many reasons, not the least of which was that he became a Republican after the war and argued in favor of suffrage for former slaves. White southerners didn't much like him after that.) We had a nice, long chat over several months about the Reconstruction era and the extremely difficult political environment that took hold in the South during it. I was highly impressed and more than a little flattered he took so much time discussing things with me.

Anyway ...

[POAS]

43. I wonder how many times the

N word has but mumbled on the Republican side while he was chairing.

[RoyGBiv]

44. A lot ...

... and in their heads, I imagine it's a running stream.

[goclark]

52. Awesome! I met him when he was much younger

He was helping a group of us put together sign/balloons that had his father's name on them.

We were at the Democratic Convention in San Francisco.

Great training!

[quiet.american]

55. Great post, Roy. nt

[POAS]

45. Final vote on Point of Order

22 Dems voted with Reps

Point of order fails 230 to 200

[POAS]

46. Stupak: "We have an agreement"

[POAS]

47. Finally getting to debate on resolution

to set the rules for today's debate and votes.

1 hour of debate I believe.

[DeepModem Mom]

48. Just want to say how honored I am to be among you BOGGERS on this historic day.

We have ourselves a great President.

And, on edit -- proud to be a Democrat!!!

:dem:

[POAS]

50. +1 n/t

[goclark]

53. What a day to be in BOG!

[RoyGBiv]

61. Indeed ...

I actually made sure I cleared my schedule so I could hang out here today from time to time. Win or lose, I want to be close to fellow travelers.

I chose this over an NCAA tournament watch party with a 60" screen, free beer, and an enormous pot of chili (it snowed yesterday and is COLD here). College basketball, beer (especially the free variety), and chili are three of my top five favorite things, so I was pretty serious about it to choose the BOG and CSPAN.

Although, I do admit, I went over earlier and got some of the chili and watched the last half of Michigan State and Maryland. :)

[POAS]

49. It's going to be

blah, blah, blah
talking point, talking point, talking point for at least an hour now!

[goclark]

60. It is now @ 4 PM PST, when will we have to be in front

of our television/

When should I start tp tape it?

[NYC Liberal]

56. I am so excited! And glad that it didn't happen while I was at work

so I can watch it all!

Love you all!

[goclark]

64. I keep running back and forth to the TV

What time will the speakers be finished and the President will talk to us?

[NYC Liberal]

66. C-SPAN's website says:

"HOUSE CONTINUES DEBATE ON HEALTH CARE, VOTING BEGINS SHORTLY

The House is now in the final hour of debate on the Senate health care legislation and the reconciliation bill."

But I don't know when that was updated. I have my TV muted because I'd rather not listen to this, I've heard it all already. I just want to get to the vote!

I'm trying to find a good song to play when it finally passes!

[NYC Liberal]

67. C-Span just flashed a banner on the TV that said

"Now - General Debate
Vote Starts Shortly"

[goclark]

72. Thanks and K

[POAS]

57. Procedural vote

the debate and vote

20 dems vote with repubs

rules approved 228-202

Now voting on rules for debate

[POAS]

58. Rules approved, now on to the general debate

on the legislation.

edited to add final tally
224/206 28 dems voting with the reps.

[goclark]

59. Fired Up@ Ready to GO! K

[quiet.american]

63. Going on what - a good 8 hours of sitting thru GOP lies --

I'm UTTERLY DISGUSTED with this collection of sociopaths, liars, and pipsqueaks. (Not that I wasn't before).

In the EIGHT HOURS I've heard them, not once have I heard them refer to ANYONE in their districts and what the human cost of their opposition to this bill will be and why they are still justified in opposing the bil (well, no surprise there.) Not once have I heard them mention human beings (except to lie about doomsday scenarios they've cooked up). All I've heard about are numbers, process, and points of order. And every single one of them simply lying, lying, lying.

Ugh. This will be a magnificent moment, but I truly wonder how much longer this country can hang together with the kind of ferocious and in some cases, openly racist, idiots who now represent the "Grandstand. Oppose. Postpone" party.

[get the red out]

65. I wonder that every day

I don't know how this country can stay together with such people willing to do anything it seems. But then, perhaps in exposing who they really are, especially with the tea bagging idiots, it will prove helpful in the long run.

[goclark]

70. Mr. B is up now up to represent the Rethugs

He is angry because the Rethugs"know this is a bad bill" and they are trying to "protect" the American people from this horrible bill ~ those are not his exact words but close .

Bottom line, he is strongly suggesting that the Democrats don't care about the American people---- the Democrats are telling you lies, we are telling you the truth. :puke:

He wants each member present to come up to the mike and say how they are voting instead of an electronic vote.

:puke:

[goclark]

71. Mr. B is up now up to represent the Rethugs

He is angry because the Rethugs"know this is a bad bill" and they are trying to "protect" the American people from this horrible bill ~ those are not his exact words but close .

Bottom line, he is strongly suggesting that the Democrats don't care about the American people---- the Democrats are telling you lies, we are telling you the truth. :puke:

He wants each member present to come up to the mike and say how they are voting instead of an electronic vote.

:puke:

[NYC Liberal]

68. Pelosi speaking! "Just think, tonight we join those who passed Social Security, Medicare,

and now, healthcare for all!"

[Lindsey]

69. I wish Pelosi didn't seem so nervous (I do like her outfit though)!

LOL....

[goclark]

73. Bet she's not nervous now! It passed!!!

:party:

[DeepModem Mom]

74. After passage, from the House floor, "YES, WE CAN, YES, WE CAN, YES, WE CAN!"

Excellent.