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Wed Jan-30-08 02:51 PM
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*** Official Mukasey testimony before Senate Judiciary Committee #5 **** |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:52 PM
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1. Leahy pressing him on the "recusal" issue |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:52 PM
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2. All I have to say is "is this guy mentally disabled?" |
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He seem incapable of answering a question.
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:53 PM
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4. crazy like a B*shy tailed fox! |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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7. I know, it's despicable |
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I'm getting angry just listening to him basically lie by omission.
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:53 PM
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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5. Who has viewed these tapes? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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6. I don't know.. and if I did I wouldn't tell you |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:55 PM
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8. If they HAD viewed them, there was a reason.. then Who said to destroy?? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:55 PM
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9. Who's got the Rolaids? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:55 PM
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10. Was anyone ASKED about the advisability of destroying them? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:55 PM
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11. "I haven't seen any evidence of that" |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:56 PM
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12. Aw shit.. Muk says he saw it in the Washington Post. . |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM
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13. VIDEOS of the Mukasey Hearing: CIA Tapes Investigation May Cover Interrogation Techniques |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM
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14. Muk.. "maybe I forgot" |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM
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15. I feel like jumping through my MacBook Pro and strangling this POS in many ways |
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I think he is far worse than Gonzales.
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM
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16. reminds me of "I dont recall"--Nixon |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM
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17. Were there communications between you & the WH about the destruction? |
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"Durham will look at that"
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:58 PM
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18. Will you have a problem with Durham testifying here?? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:58 PM
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19. Muk (short version) yes |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:59 PM
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20. Now about those missing emails... did you see that in the paper? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:59 PM
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22. You know they were using RNC addys? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:59 PM
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21. "I don't understand the question" LMAO |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM
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23. If they have broken those laws will you look into it? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM
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24. "I would want to know more about it" |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM
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25. Stunning in his evasiveness. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM
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34. He should be impeached based on that alone |
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How can he not be infuriated at the possible illegal deleting of emails?
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:02 PM
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27. about the FBI needin arabic speakers in management positions.. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:02 PM
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28. (issue during confirmation - he said he'd look into it) |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:03 PM
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29. "It's in litigation" so he can't talk about it |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:04 PM
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32. He hasn't answered a GD question at all, this is a waste of time until Congress starts doing their |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM
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He can't talk about it if...it happened in the past, it's no longer done, he |
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hasn't been authorized (Bush's permission) or if it's an ongoing investigation..and now...if it's in litigation
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:04 PM
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30. So w're under threat of attack and we have to wait for answers? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:04 PM
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31. This guy is acting like the last one - like he's Bush's personal lawyer |
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His response to the illegally deleted emails was incredibly leaning toward "well, they're Republicans - I'm not going to investigate Republicans"
What an ass hole.
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:07 PM
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36. Yeah. That anyone expected otherwise (Shumer) is what is shocking. |
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This guy is a clone of Gonzo. A total waste of everyone's time (but I think that's their MO -- to waste time so often that everyone gives up)
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:08 PM
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37. That's why Bush nominated him |
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33. Grassely is bringin up legit concerns... but is off topic. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM
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35. now he's on illegal immigration |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:10 PM
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39. back to the process of determining if waterboarding is or is not torture |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:11 PM
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40. If you are waiting for Durhams investigation..? Or is there a policy detemination? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:12 PM
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41. "facts come to the attention to the department" . so far they haven't |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:12 PM
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42. Could we not have this discussion in closed session? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:12 PM
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43. in 3 days I'll have a birthday...would someone please smack |
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the ever-loving shit out of Mukasey for me?
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM
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44. He said that is would still be just a discussion.. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM
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45. It's not fair to say there is no basis to determine if "facts have been brought |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:14 PM
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46. Anyone who watches TV would know ther was at least the basis |
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to start investigations...
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:14 PM
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47. It's NOT a muthfucking IF now. I am SICK OF THE IFS |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:15 PM
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48. WH: there is no exemption.. no Nuremberg defense.. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:15 PM
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49. You say the certification alone keeps you from going forward...? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:16 PM
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50. "there's an ongoing investigation and I won't comment" |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:16 PM
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51. "permissibly relied on"?? WTF? This dude is one good spinner! |
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what the devil does that mean?
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:17 PM
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53. He is slimier than Gonzales. n/t |
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54. WH thanks him for reestablishing the firewall between the admin & the DOJ |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:18 PM
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55. Did Whitehouse just blow kisses to Mukasey? wtf???? nt |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:18 PM
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56. Thank him? for what? His lies? His non-answers? His complicity? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:18 PM
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57. Leahy: DOJ trying to take over the FOIA from "archives" |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:19 PM
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58. He tells Muk to look over that... |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:20 PM
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60. Another "ongoing investigation" cop out. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:23 PM
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65. I think before Gonzo left, he wrote Mukasey a memo |
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"Dear Mike, just remember these words: 'Ongoing investigation' -- they have served me often and well. Best Regards, Al"
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:24 PM
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67. And the note has since been destroyed of course. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:21 PM
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61. I am simply dumbstruck by all of this. That this man is the Attorney General of my country |
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It just makes a person want to cry.
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:41 PM
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100. Your country no longer exists.......its "Their Country" now.... |
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and you will follow....
Wake us up when this nightmare is over!
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:21 PM
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62. Cardins's observation: from any standard, you cannot justify waterboarding |
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and from the viewpoint of American leadership it's unconscionable...And not to clearly condem it will bring danger to our own people who may be captured...
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:22 PM
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63. also.. retroactive immunity is prone to abuses... |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:23 PM
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64. and that's 3 months too long |
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66. supports sunset provisions |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:25 PM
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68. Also wants to bring up voter suppression issues- |
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69. ooh ooh ooh , attempts to suppress minority voting during this election |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:26 PM
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70. Muk claims he'll be on top of that. . . snort |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:27 PM
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71. yeah right...we can be sure of that, eh? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:28 PM
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72. Give your personal attention to the civil rights division.. |
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74. Whitehouse has another question |
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76. He's going to write to him re: Office of Legal Counsel |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:31 PM
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77. It's become a hot house of rougue ideological opinion. . |
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80. behind a shield of "classification" |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:41 PM
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101. memo would be source of shame if made public |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:30 PM
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75. return civil rights division to its historic role |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:32 PM
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78. The idea that anything Mukasey says on any subject can be trusted is laughable |
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The man enables torture. And that tells me all I need to know about him.
And if anyone thinks he can be trusted on anything else? They are either liars or stupid. And that tells me all I need to know about them.
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:32 PM
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79. nobody in that unit thought they were violating the law, nor intended to |
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Durham will report to a dept atty gen who reports to AG.. and is therfor not autonomous..
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:34 PM
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82. pushing for an independent prosecutor... (Durham isn't) |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:35 PM
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83. Muk is gobstopped.... He says you only appoint an independent prosecutror |
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is when there's a conflict... He doesn't see such a conflict...
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85. he'd hate to destroy faith in the system |
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84. If there's no conflict.. why the recusal? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:36 PM
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87. Gee, why weren't they just charged with war crimes? |
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and destroying evidence?
Why why why why why
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:36 PM
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88. Do you know Comey? yes.. Your opinion of him? |
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89. He is a sound, able person. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:37 PM
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90. Do youi know Bradbury?.. He's been involved with most controversial issues |
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107. lol - no I've got the TV on behind me |
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106. she's damn good, eh? steno is practically a forgotten skill |
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91. Comey didn't like Bradbury.... "ashamed" |
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92. Muk doesn't always agree with Comey. . |
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95. I'm going to get mean and nasty any minute now |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:39 PM
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96. re" torture & wiretapping".. Have you reviewed Bradbury's opinions? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:40 PM
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97. He agrees with Bradbury. . (multiple abusive techniques) |
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99. Please review and get back to me. . Muk says ok |
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102. It is apparent he has no intention of reviewing anything, I am sure he knows the answers anyways.n/t |
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103. I sure do like Durbin right now! Kapow! n/t |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:43 PM
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104. Ashcroft covered up the "spirit of the law" |
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Mukasey is a criminal thug, no different than Gonzales, and every bit the same as Bush. The DOJ will continue to cover up for the war crimes of the Bush administration, as well as all their other crimes. No one will be held accountable. Not by Congress and not by that constantly repeated, so much so it's meaningless, "rule of law"
And the act of torture undermines our moral authority. and not holding the guilty accountable undermines our moral authority. and pretending we somehow would restore our moral authority by simply calling water-boarding illegal is ludicrus(afterall, waterboarding IS ALREADY FUCKING ILLEGAL)...without accountability, without holding the guilty accountable, without admitting the war crimes and doing something about them (accountability), America will NEVER regain any moral authority.
I'm not playing along with the pretending to help anyone feel better about America.
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:24 PM
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110. i agree with you one hundred percent...shame on my country |
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:38 PM
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111. Question for those who are watching |
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Do you get the impression that congressional questioners are really, really going after Mukasey and trying to get to the bottom of the many issues being discussed, or...
...do you get the impression that this is a show, for our benefit, in which congress appears to be asking tough questions but Mukasey knows what to say because everyone in the room is in agreement that real accountability would disrupt our system too much?
Mukasey must know that his answers are, at the core, acceptable to congress. Congress may bristle publically, but if they really wanted government misdeeds exposed they could certainly do it. I think it is a show...I'm not watching this one, but I've seen many others and I've seen congressmen steer clear of the tough questions, tackle ones that are debatable, not follow up on issues, not press on obfuscation.
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:44 PM
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105. new thread (short one I guess) |
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109. Much thanks annabanana...that was a job well done! |
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