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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:40 PM Original message |
The idiocy of the self defense argument |
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Smith_3
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. ... |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Watch out--here comes all the self-defense "logic"! |
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Edweird
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
175. Well, logic IS the natural predator of irrational fear. |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #175 |
199. You don't have the official Gungeon pager? |
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GodlessBiker
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Are you against all self-defense arguments, or just the ones in a house? |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Like the self defense argument against the angry motorist |
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GodlessBiker
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. Well, that, or someone pointing a gun at you and demanding money. |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
135. Did you have him arrested? BTW, were you drunk driving home - to the wrong house? |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
239. Did any of the things you're talking about actually happen to you? |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. The idiocy of your argument |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. So now you are doing detective work to see if the guy came through the |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. It doesn't require detective work |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You have the situation with a stranger in your house |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Nope, not common at all |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. If the gun owner doesn't shoot immediately? |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Sorry, this is silly |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. I am suggesting that |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
179. Yes, they can, if someone is hotheaded |
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MadHound
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Sun Feb-17-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. First of all, your assertion that people innocently enter the wrong house frequently is BS |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I know that I have tried to enter the wrong house on several occasions |
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MindPilot
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Hmmm...I climbed aboard the wrong ship once. |
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MadHound
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Anecdotal evidence based on your own personal experience isn't evidence at all |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Here is evidence of children getting killed in similar manner |
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immoderate
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. More children die from choking on hot dogs than by gun accidents. |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. One hundred thousand people in the USA are shot every year |
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immoderate
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. How many crimes are foiled because citizens have guns? |
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Tejas
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
289. If all else fails, pull stats out of your.........n/t |
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leftofthedial
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
92. and in traffic accidents |
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immoderate
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Not to mention government regulations for hot dogs. |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
131. Who's proposing that existing gun laws should be eliminated? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #92 |
218. And according to the anti-gun nuts |
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leftofthedial
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #218 |
231. no, but we should--and do--regulate cars and driving |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Mon Feb-18-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #231 |
243. You dont think we regulate gun purchases? |
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beevul
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #231 |
296. Yes... |
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MadHound
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Actually that is simply more anecdotal evidence |
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Ghost in the Machine
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Aye Caramba! |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. I have tried to enter wrong house on occasions |
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ZombieHorde
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. I have been roaring drunk many times in my youth |
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Ghost in the Machine
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
90. It sounds like you are very unaware of your surroundings, then.. |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
101. Bet you didn't kick in the door, though. (n/t) |
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petronius
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
120. Perhaps you should start a poll, and ask how many DUers have ever tried |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #60 |
219. In 30+ years |
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EnviroBat
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #60 |
225. Perhaps you fear guns because you do stupid shit with uncanny frequency. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #225 |
248. I guess I would be against anyone trying to protect their family and home |
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Recursion
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
234. But did you actually *enter* the house? |
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spoony
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. How fucking drunk are you? |
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Mugu
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
116. There's an old saying something to the effect: |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #116 |
201. ROFL |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
247. Wow. That explains a lot. |
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Warren Stupidity
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't own guns, really dislike gun nuts but your argument is |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I did just slap it together, but it really makes no sense to have a gun if you |
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Warren Stupidity
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. See post 4 |
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ileus
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
96. #4's been canned... |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
182. I've been canned? I didn't know that. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. What if you don't live in an urban area then? |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. If you live in an isolated rural area, |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
150. Really? I've lived in isolated, rural areas, and I've never owned a gun. |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #150 |
163. Your home, your choice. |
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backwoodsbob
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #163 |
203. I have a loaded handgun within three feet of me |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
183. Why not a handgun? |
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dysfunctional press
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. violent crime against people drops when & where conceal-carry is allowed. |
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MadHound
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
217. Many urbanites like to go hunting each year. |
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ThomWV
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. What a silly post. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
17. Horse crap.. |
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immoderate
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Strapped down rabbit test... |
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Individualist
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. When discussing the right of a homeowner to shoot an intruder, |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. That's lame and only an excuse to shoot. |
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Individualist
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I'll take the policeman's advice if the situation ever comes up. |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Let's just hope you don't kill an innocent person in your enthusiasm. nt |
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michreject
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
174. If they're in my house uninvited |
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Individualist
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. Precisely! |
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EOTE
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Is there a gun ban in Canada? |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. So you think it would be easier to change our personalities? |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
184. It would be pointless to not change our personalities |
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guardian
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
113. What about machetes? |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
198. Nice poster |
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mvccd1000
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
207. But you don't want to post how many people avoided becoming victims, do you? |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
100. That pretty much sums it up. Kudos. |
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aikoaiko
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. that's the worst anti-gun post I've read in a while. |
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Tarc
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Sun Feb-17-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. "my best self defense is to work to outlaw guns" |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
249. Apparently, he needs a defense against wandering into other people's homes |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Yes, the United Kingdom is an excellent example of this |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Suggestion on the chart |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Hmmm... |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
185. Yes, I believe it is easier to read! |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. How's that? |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. Justifiable homicides do not indicate effectiveness. |
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mvccd1000
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
38. Education for penguin |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. These stories are so few and far between. |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Okay, let's run with this. |
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krispos42
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Yes, they are |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Here's an article about guns in the home... |
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Edweird
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
172. That's an OPINION piece, not based on FACT. |
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. Unfortunately I have to admit you have a point... |
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B Calm
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
48. Anybody who works to outlaw guns is being conservative! I worship |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. The right to be safe from people with guns... |
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B Calm
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. How will taking away my personal liberal freedom to own a gun |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. You're making this stuff up as you go along. |
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B Calm
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'll be damn if I'm pulling anything out of my ass! The right to own a gun |
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
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B Calm
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. As I have already said, I cherish my personal freedom. I served honorably |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Don't shoot me, bro! nt |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:20 PM Original message |
Thank you, B Calm! |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
128. Neither is putting your personal wants before the needs of the community. nt |
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Pavulon
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. No that is a suicidal idea |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
105. Can you please explain what the gun show loophole is? And why its bad? Thanks! nt |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
189. Define "liberal" then |
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skater314159
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
259. It IS a liberal idea... |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. It's a libertarian idea. Liberalism is about concern for the community. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Communitarianism is only a denomination (if you will) of Liberalism |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Tell that to my parishioner who was on campus in Dekalb Thursday. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. I didn't say that guns were good. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I'm also a religious vegetarian. I don't eat any animals. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
114. What religion? |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Christian. Join us. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #115 |
123. If your walk with Our Lord doesn't pass through the meat isle, more power to you. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Jesus taught compassion. Watch the video of those downer cows |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #125 |
134. I'm not sure what you're talking about. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #136 |
151. I don't eat beef. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Hogs and chickens eat grain, and process it in the same way. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. I don't eat animals from factory farms. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Hunting animals is cruel and unnecessary. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. Deer is Yummy. Free and LEGAL |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #161 |
169. Deer is awful. Gamey with a nasty aftertaste. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Morons dont prep it correct. |
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skater314159
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #171 |
180. Correct... |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. Most of what I eat and drink tastes like crap |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #178 |
256. I'm 1/2 Scots myself. Yet, I tend to stay away from stuff that tastes like crap. |
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Mugu
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #169 |
197. Any animal that is not taken properly will have a bad taste |
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B Calm
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #169 |
226. We eat venison all the time here. You wouldn't know it from beef |
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benEzra
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #169 |
227. You have to know how to cook it. It's MUCH leaner than beef, hence... |
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cherokeeprogressive
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #169 |
269. You must not be preparing it right... n/t |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #158 |
164. Nobody eats predators. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. Indeed. In this country, hunting is a blood sport. Not at all necessary.nt |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #167 |
176. I realize that you are emotionally charged about this issue. |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #176 |
255. In what way have I insulted you? |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #167 |
177. self-delete, duplicate |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #167 |
193. You have no idea what you are talking about. Period. |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #193 |
258. Again, hunting is only "necessary" because we've destroyed |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:52 PM Original message |
If we don't take care of it, IT DOESN'T GET TAKEN CARE OF. |
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Mugu
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #167 |
205. Tell that to my barn cats or to the pheasants in my meadow. |
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beevul
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Wed Feb-20-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #205 |
297. Coyotes have become really bad recently... |
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Mugu
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #167 |
206. Delete, unintentional double post. |
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Mugu
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #167 |
209. Delete, unintentional triple post. n/t |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #158 |
192. If the predators aren't there - which you admit - then something needs to control the prey... |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #192 |
257. The predators need to be reintroduced. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #257 |
280. Fine. What do you do until the ecosystem is balanced? |
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skater314159
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
260. Then why do cops and soldiers have them? nt |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
191. Nonsense |
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madmom
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
204. I am very liberal, I am pro gun, I am anti NRA now how does that fit into you're stereotype? |
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NaturalHigh
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. So if I'll just call the police, everything will be all right? |
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NashVegas
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
54. The Tragedy of The Non-Self-Defense Argument |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. See # 53 above. A gun in a house is a killing tool for the family. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. So is your tub.. |
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aikoaiko
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
88. What about the gun in your house -- do you think is a tool for your family? |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
110. And I don't want to see any of mine be raped or murdered by some scumbag stranger. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
126. I honestly don't want to cast unfair aspersions on your family... |
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Dimensio0
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
212. Are you saying that what happened to the Harvey family |
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Pavulon
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. Pretty Slack Logic.. We outlawed weed. That worked great.. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
65. Drunk people |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. That post was just plain immoral. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. What can I say? |
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Deleted message |
theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I take it that you care deeply for the rights of the much-maligned drunk driving minority |
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I'm not itching to shoot them dead. nt |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. I've lost nearly a half a dozen friends to drunk drivers. |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. I'm sorry you lost friends to drunk drivers... |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
112. That's very kind of you to say, thank you. |
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Mugu
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
71. If somebody enters my home uninvited, I'm not going to murder them. |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. That's a good chuckle if you're in a locker room... |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. How do you know he's not in a locker room? |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I thought that, too. He could be in a locker room. |
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Mugu
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
93. I have never harmed another person, |
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ileus
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
79. It's not called self defense if you rely on the police to save your ass. |
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DefenseLawyer
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. Bans won't change the culture |
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zanne
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Doing something about poverty and mental health would help... |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Yep, both/and...Not either/or. nt |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
104. In practice, it's either-or... |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Yep, the gun nuts are holding a collective gun to Congress' head, |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
137. Not a gun - it's called "the Constitution". You should read it sometime... |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. You mean that thing that mentions "a well regulated militia", |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. THAT'S the 1! What with "well regulated" meaning "well trained and well armed". AND "necessary" |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. And I'm endagered by all the "well-trained" crazies who walk into lecture halls |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. They would be devastated - HUGE standing army, many of we the people quite willing to give up |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. I'd rather hold a revolution Ghandi's way. |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. Cheers! And seriously - thanks for the discussion! Always things to think about! |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #146 |
159. Actually, the "militia" bit is about how soldiers and citizens are equal. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #159 |
166. I follow Jesus in terms of the necessity of defense. |
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theredpen
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #166 |
173. I consider myself to be a Christian Pacifist, too |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #173 |
251. The Just War Doctrine is not pacifism. |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #251 |
253. "He did give us the Protestant Reformation" |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. It's true. Luther's reforms were a direct response to Aquinas' |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #254 |
261. Thank Jeebus we got rid of the tradition of scholarship |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #261 |
262. Scholarship based on scripture is one thing. |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #262 |
263. Sola Scriptura, huh? (nt) |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #263 |
264. Sola scriptura, sola fides, sola gratia nt |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #264 |
265. Six words that don't appear in the Bible |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #265 |
267. For justification by grace alone, |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #267 |
273. My hermenuetic places the words of Jesus and Moses higher than those of Paul, who never met either |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #273 |
274. Blasphemy?!! |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #274 |
277. I'm sorry I called you "Mr. I went to Seminary" |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. It's "MS. I Went to Seminary" to you! nt |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. Oh yeah? Well, I'm more of a woman than you'll ever be and more of a man than you can handle! |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #281 |
282. LOL!! |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #282 |
284. Fair enough... |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #284 |
285. True dat. We'd get flamed to death over there!! |
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theredpen
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #285 |
287. Have fun training the beagle! |
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skater314159
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #144 |
266. So only "macho assholes" are citizens now? nt |
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beevul
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Wed Feb-20-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #144 |
298. Not that dishonest shit again... |
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leftofthedial
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
94. "anti-gun laws don't work"; "if we criminalize guns, only criminals will own guns" |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. The difference is, 99% of people believe murder is bad. |
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leftofthedial
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #109 |
200. no difference |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
194. Not a valid comparison |
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leftofthedial
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #194 |
202. "absurd" is indeed a word that likely comes to mind for both of us. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #202 |
222. Good. I'm glad you agree your argument is absurd. |
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leftofthedial
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #222 |
228. and I'm not surprised you still think yours is not |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #228 |
232. My point, since you didn't get it, is that your comparison is invalid. |
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leftofthedial
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #232 |
235. I understood you. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #235 |
238. Actually, what I was trying to get at... |
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leftofthedial
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Mon Feb-18-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #238 |
242. Thanks for the clarification |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #242 |
250. I disagree |
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CRF450
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
97. ..... |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
98. "First of all, being that I do not own a gun, my best self defense is to work to outlaw guns. " |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
99. Time for Self-Defense Law 101... |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. What he said. Plus, Be a wolf or a dog. not a sheep. |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Sure, by all means. And thanks. (n/t) |
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DefenseLawyer
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
121. There is no guilty until proven innocent |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #121 |
157. You're right, that was a poor way to put it. |
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Individualist
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
133. Excellent post |
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penguin7
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Sun Feb-17-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
196. Your right to own a gun makes my life more dangerous |
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Dimensio0
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #196 |
211. Please justify your assertion. |
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rockymountaindem
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #196 |
213. On the other hand, your desire to feel more secure by banning guns |
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jmg257
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #196 |
221. And my greatest fear is anti-gun nuts forcing us to give up the right to self-defense and leaving |
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skater314159
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #196 |
270. How? |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
102. "First of all, being that I do not own a gun, my best self defense is to work to outlaw guns." |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
117. Not everyone can legally own a gun. |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Are you a felon? Been committed? |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Not "committed", but was treated inpatient for depression. |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. Do you believe self defense is wrong? |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. 56 gun deaths in the UK in 2004. |
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Sanctified
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #130 |
142. Interesting number you have, this website lists it as 191. |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #130 |
143. Your exactly right about that. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Whatever. I'm gonna go read some Girard, or Howard Zehr, |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #145 |
162. I understand. |
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skater314159
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #145 |
272. That's a nice response? |
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skater314159
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #130 |
271. So ONLY gun deaths matter? nt |
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penguin7
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Mon Feb-18-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #127 |
240. An alpha male should want guns outlawed |
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Dimensio0
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Mon Feb-18-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #240 |
241. Please provide a reference for your statistic. |
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penguin7
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #241 |
244. Reference |
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Dimensio0
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #244 |
268. I am unable to locate the specific citation to which you refer. |
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beevul
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Wed Feb-20-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #244 |
299. Brady and company? Are you kidding? |
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Lex Talionis
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #240 |
245. Well, penguin7 you are correct. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #119 |
147. That is a state reg, and a stupid one. |
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elehhhhna
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
103. Flame away but if the teenager down the street comes thru |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. No Flame here.just a salute. |
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elehhhhna
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #108 |
295. I just hope whomever invades our house yells "PULL!" first... |
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Canuckistanian
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
122. The gun death statistics conveniently ignore ONE reality |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #122 |
138. Canada doesn't outlaw handguns, and your gun-death stats were even lower in the mid-90s... |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #122 |
140. It is. Deal more harshly with those repeat offenders and those who have serious criminal histories |
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
124. What about defending yourself from people who don't want to kill you but |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. I got the answer right here, MiltonF |
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. According to the OP you may be correct on that Theory. n/t |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #129 |
141. That makes no sense! The doctor who got hacked to death with a meat clever here in NY |
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Lex Talionis
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. Exactly. |
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jmg257
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. The framers agreed - some of the greatest minds ever explicily secured our rights against such |
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sendero
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Sun Feb-17-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
139. The idiocy... |
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sakabatou
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
165. The only self-defense I have is hand-to-hand |
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SecularNATION
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
168. The only idiocy here... |
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apocalypsehow
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
170. Excellent post. K & R. |
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Dimensio0
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #170 |
181. You believe that an inherently flawed premise is excellent? |
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Dimensio0
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
186. Your arguments are fundamentally flawed. |
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RamboLiberal
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
188. Dumb anti-gun DU post of the day |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Sun Feb-17-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
190. Too bad we have that pesky Constitution which guarantees an individual the right to bear arms |
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JosephSchmo
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Sun Feb-17-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
195. I wear my seatbelts when I drive |
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havocmom
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
208. Police departments have won court cases re people expecting to be protected from crime |
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FormerOstrich
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
210. Saying guns are for protection is nothing but... |
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Mugu
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #210 |
220. Yeah, that's why only stupid people like cops and FBI agents carry them. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
214. How about the idiocy ... |
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Richard Steele
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Mon Feb-18-08 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
215. Your OP is a silly thing. I fart in its general direction. nm |
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pintobean
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
216. You make a great argument |
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EnviroBat
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
223. Look, anyone who is engaged in the act of breaking into my home, |
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Thothmes
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
224. This is a great argument |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
229. Rec'd. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. I cannot concur. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. I was referring to him/her as brave for daring to post what s/he did. nt |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
230. Would it be faster to call the police? lets do the math on that. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
237. I shot and killed an intruder... |
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Tejas
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #237 |
288. Thankfully you |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody
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Mon Feb-18-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
246. Do you want to ban baseball bats and pepper spray too? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
252. penguin7, it seems that you'r an overly paranoid person. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #252 |
276. I noticed that myself... |
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #276 |
283. Pretty sad that someone can start such a topic |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #283 |
291. Yeah... |
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Mon Feb-18-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
275. NATCHEZ MAN SHOOTS WIFE IN MISTAKEN HOME INVASION |
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #275 |
279. Word of advice: now that that guy's single, don't be his next spouse. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
286. The idiocy of the "criminals will turn in their guns" argument |
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Dr. Strange
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Mon Feb-18-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #286 |
290. It's pretty simple. It works like this. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
292. I do have enough rage built up inside of me that guns |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #292 |
293. Your so called 'tactics'... |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #293 |
294. Better dead than to ever be raped again. |
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