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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:10 AM Original message |
Why do cities and regions like N. Virginia, Chicago, and San Francisco tend to be more enlightened, |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. Educated, cosmopolitan, thinking people move to the cities. |
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W_HAMILTON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because... |
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Nickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Right on target, at least on target with my thinking |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. that's a great answer |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Then please explain Vermont. 95% rural by any definition |
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W_HAMILTON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Well, for starters... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. yeah, quite a bit of it isn't true. |
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W_HAMILTON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. So, they have no connection to the outside world, eh? |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Vermont also has a tradition of (for lack of a better term) radical democracy |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. There's often more than one "Route" to a conclusion. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Vermont is a Very Special Place - Cherish It |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
3. because it's not true? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. but aren't the majority of these voters, in most cases, concentrated in the large urban areas? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. you are backtracking. Maine, Vermont and NH are some some of the |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I wonder if we'd still find that the majority of Democratic votes were concentrated |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. hello? every town in Vermont but four voted for Obama. That's out of over 250 |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Well, you found an exception |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. And they're peculiar. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. see here |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
6. Isn't this a little too smug? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. maybe too broad |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I think affluent and very poor people wind up in cities |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. Where's Bernie Sanders from again? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. New York. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. VT, cali. Trying to make a quiet point over here if you don't mind. |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. Because we are thrown together with people from all over the world |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Can you spell Vermont? It puts a big fat hole in your smug baloney. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. you can find exceptions, but our Democratic votes are concentrated in many large cities |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. But the exceptions warrant calling baloney on overly simple theories |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. It is possible there are different explanations for different regions |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. So where do you think the majority of Palin's supporters live? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. suburbs and rural areas- but there are LOTS of exceptions and I |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Sure, no problem. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
15. On some issues, that's the case. On other issues urban areas fare really poorly. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
24. go to the southside of Chicago to see how progressive Chicago is . nt. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. sure, but overall . . . |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. sure, that is the problem. why are minorites in Chicago and NW Indiana in such dire circumstances |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
25. extremely high rates of substance abuse |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
28. In the case of San Francisco, a good bit of the Bay Area that surrounds it.... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I swear |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. This is true, but |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. True.....It's really a collection of cities with their own identities..... |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well it's suburban living in some ways but |
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sl8 (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. In the interests of full disclosure ... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. my state of MD. went to Obama with some 61% voting for him |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
43. Dangerous idea here.... |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. I was planning to do a statistical comparison of NC and Mississippi |
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